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Old June 1st, 2010, 04:02 PM
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Registration questions, Washington D.C.

Hello All,
I'm about to register the Defender in DC...
The title arrives tomorrow, here's all the things I need to do.

Pay tax on it, the far-from-helpful rep I spoke to says they go by the KBB value if its used, but with an imported/grey-market vehicle its not even in their book. To which she says "it'll be there". If they use the value of a NAS D90 i'm screwed out of literally hundreds (maybe as much as a thousand) dollars that I shouldn't have to pay. If they go by the purchased price (which they insisted they never do on a used vehicle) I'm also not in great shape as its more of an intrinsic value thing due to their rarity here, etc which probably included the importation, etc not just the vehicle. If they go by what its worth in the UK (which is a whole other can of worms) they'd be using a basically made-up number...

They're also saying that due to being a diesel its exempt to everything, including inspection (which isn't done for passenger vehicles in DC anymore anyway). So at least I get to skip that step.

My actual question is, does it sound like a good idea to find some official-looking printout from kbb.com, kbb.co.uk, something similar with the actual vehicle's value? or are they going to stick to what they said over the phone that "they have it in the book" ?

I'm really not trying to pull a fast one here, just get this god-for-saken process over with as soon as possible without paying more than necessary.

any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 04:05 PM
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There is a UK KBB. I forget what it is called though. Your 198X should be in the 1500ukp range.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 05:00 PM
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Dan, when they figured out my taxable value I think it was $1000 bucks. She saw my eyes get wide and we both laughed, at which point I revealed that I actually paid a little more than that, I think my tax was around $70 bucks or something. Don't worry about it.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 05:02 PM
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I just registered my '84 import here in Seattle a couple of months ago. I went in before hand to talk to them and see what all I needed. I was told that since it can't be found in the US KBB that I should bring in lots of documentation from other sources to prove what comparable vehicles were selling for. I found maybe a dozen between the classifieds here and eBay. I also printed out a bunch of eBay UK auctions and calculated the exchange rate and had those on hand as well. When I went in with all the documentation a week or so later I got someone other than the guy I had talked to. They didn't even ask about the value- just went off the Bill of Sale, so go figure.

The one issue that did hold me up was that the seller hadn't filled out the sale portion of the V5 and signed it. I had to FedEx the V5 back to the UK for him to sign and have it FedExed back ( not cheap to/from the UK), so make sure that portion is filled out. If someone at your DMV actually reads the V5 they will see it is required. Pointing out to them that it is a requirement for the _UK_ and not the _USA_ got me nowhere.

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Dan, when they figured out my taxable value I think it was $1000 bucks. She saw my eyes get wide and we both laughed, at which point I revealed that I actually paid a little more than that, I think my tax was around $70 bucks or something. Don't worry about it.
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Old June 1st, 2010, 06:23 PM
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There is a UK KBB. I forget what it is called though. Your 198X should be in the 1500ukp range.
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Old June 2nd, 2010, 06:28 PM
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Got the plates!
Had to go to the inspection station to get my exemption sticker (despite the exact opposite being told to me by 2 different DMV reps). But after that, then another 4 hours @ the DMV around the corner, a bit of arguing over what the value of it was for tax... I left with plates.
Thanks for everybody's help.
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Old June 2nd, 2010, 07:13 PM
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and the value was?....


oh, congrats btw!

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Got the plates!
Had to go to the inspection station to get my exemption sticker (despite the exact opposite being told to me by 2 different DMV reps). But after that, then another 4 hours @ the DMV around the corner, a bit of arguing over what the value of it was for tax... I left with plates.
Thanks for everybody's help.
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Old June 2nd, 2010, 07:21 PM
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$1500

first he asked what I paid, So then I just had him confirm that they assign the tax based on the NADA/KBB etc value and never use the purchase price...
Then he accused me of "talking like a lawyer" haha

All worked out in the end! good day
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...... Then he accused me of "talking like a lawyer".....
"You wona dem college boys?"
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I look forward to seeing your Defender in the area.......enjoy!
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Old June 2nd, 2010, 08:17 PM
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"You wona dem college boys?"
LOL. It reminds me of when I was in the army, I was accosted with the apparently derogatory phase of "one of those guys who liked to read books and stuff".

Trips to the DMV are always fun.
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Old June 2nd, 2010, 09:25 PM
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it probably didn't help that I was reading "Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World" while I waited 1.5 hours for them to "enter it into the system"
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well done with the DMV. Now you have plates to put on your new bumper. see you at HH someday soon.
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Old June 2nd, 2010, 09:41 PM
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Danke,
I was afraid i'd have to duct tape the front one to the old bumper, as drilling would just cause it to disintegrate.

VERY happy that i've got a valid local title (in the mail), valid plates & a local street parking permit.

Thanks again.
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Hey Dr. Aaron, Thanks again!
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