Recovery points on LR winch bumper? - Defender Source
Defender Source  

Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions


Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old October 10th, 2005, 10:26 AM
jam90
Status: Offline
JAMES MARKS
1995 D90 NAS ST #2043
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: LA, CA USA
Posts: 57
Recovery points on LR winch bumper?

I'm looking for some advice on where to mount front recovery points on an OEM Land Rover winch bumper on a D90.
Which bolts... if any... are solid enough for this application?

-James Marks
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old October 10th, 2005, 11:49 AM
Cube II's Avatar
Cube II
Status: Offline
Michele
1997 D90
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Italy
Posts: 900
Registry
James,
where are you going to mount the recovery points on your bumper?
Are those which mount on top (a la Series) or like these?
So to go "in line" with the chassis?

A backing plate (as shown) is at least recommended,
assuming your bumper is thick enough.

I had made mine and welded directly on my custom bumper.

Pre-cutted shackle hangers from Rockstomper i.e. are also available,
so no bolts are needed


Cheers!
Attached Images
 
__________________
Michele
D90 VNTdi
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
+109" IIA ex-military

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Sketches and doodles:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

[O]===[O]
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old October 10th, 2005, 02:35 PM
sheki's Avatar
sheki
Status: Offline
David Shechter
97' D90 SW 2.8L diesel
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: New York City
Posts: 578
get Jate rings, they bolt to the chassis where the shipping tie down ring is.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	DSC09372.jpg
Views:	151
Size:	80.9 KB
ID:	4015  
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old October 10th, 2005, 03:02 PM
jam90
Status: Offline
JAMES MARKS
1995 D90 NAS ST #2043
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: LA, CA USA
Posts: 57
Thanks for the advice...
it looks like those Jate rings will work great...
I can probably use them on the rear bumper as well.

-James
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old October 10th, 2005, 07:04 PM
snuffer's Avatar
snuffer
Status: Offline
Randy Black
'95 D 90 SW
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tulsa Ok USA
Posts: 753
The only problems with Jate rings is that they get burried in mud before the bumper mounted recovery points.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old October 11th, 2005, 04:34 AM
Cube II's Avatar
Cube II
Status: Offline
Michele
1997 D90
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Italy
Posts: 900
Registry
Yup.
This makes you swear and dig trying to reach them.
__________________
Michele
D90 VNTdi
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
+109" IIA ex-military

To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

Sketches and doodles:
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

[O]===[O]
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old October 12th, 2005, 02:18 AM
wicks's Avatar
wicks
Status: Offline
Wicks
97 Defender LE SW #44
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hollywood, CA
Posts: 806
Those JATEs are actually rock sensors, but everyone thinks they are recovery points.

Use Dixon Bate tow jaws (expeditionexchange.com). The only proper kit.

But you may need to upgrade your stock bumper if you ever use them. John (EE) sells a backing plate for them. They go on each side of the basket (if there is one with an angle on that thing), or just outside of them maybe 3", but people tend to regret that as they can pull the bumper ends forward.
__________________
Wicks | 1st pl Nevada Trophy 2004 & 2003
Currently no Land Rover - hunting for the perfect white SIIA
2015 G550, 73 911s, 06 BMW GSA, 06 Ducati Paul Smart, 73 Moto Guzzi V7sport
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old October 12th, 2005, 10:28 AM
Eric Siepmann
Status: Offline
Eric W. Siepmann
1997 Defender 90 SW
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chicago, IL, Cook
Posts: 883
I have a LR winch bumper and you could mount them on the winch tray, but it is not a good idea IMO. I use tow hooks - because they came with the truck and I am too lazy to revisit the topic.

Dixon bates as the only proper kit? That's an EE fashion statement if I ever heard it.

EwS
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old October 12th, 2005, 11:44 AM
jam90
Status: Offline
JAMES MARKS
1995 D90 NAS ST #2043
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: LA, CA USA
Posts: 57
Eric -

Where are the tow hooks mounted on your LR Winch bumper?
Can you post a photo?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old October 12th, 2005, 12:52 PM
Eric Siepmann
Status: Offline
Eric W. Siepmann
1997 Defender 90 SW
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chicago, IL, Cook
Posts: 883
I don't have any photos.

Hooks are frame mounted.

EwS
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old October 12th, 2005, 05:25 PM
snuffer's Avatar
snuffer
Status: Offline
Randy Black
'95 D 90 SW
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Tulsa Ok USA
Posts: 753
"Use Dixon Bate tow jaws (expeditionexchange.com). The only proper kit." ??

Yes that statement has a Torrence Ca. ring to it, even if it didn't have the parenthetical note.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old October 12th, 2005, 05:57 PM
evilfij's Avatar
evilfij
Status: Offline
evilfij
I have never seen a rover in person
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: on the internet
Posts: 14,688
they mount below, the hooks that is.
__________________
*not legal advice*
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old October 12th, 2005, 08:33 PM
Troys
Status: Offline
Troy Smith
1995 D90 SW
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Roanoke, VA, USA
Posts: 254
James

I to have the factory winch bumper. It came with two hooks that mount below the winch tray. Each hook mounts with two bolts each. AB advertises them as Warn Tow Hooks $29.95 for the pair. The Northern Store here locally sales them too. They can also be seen on the awsome white 1995 D90 SW pictured on the cover of the July issue of LRM. That is one great looking truck...

Hope that helps!

Troy
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old October 12th, 2005, 09:18 PM
Bowtracer's Avatar
Bowtracer
Status: Offline
Peter Sherman
NAS 110
Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Old Mill Creek IL
Posts: 690
Go DB hooks suck.LOL!! I have ruined a couple of straps from them falling off hooks at the wrong time. The hook pierced the strap at the loop. They have a tendency to bend & break as well. I have broken one. Positive anchor with the DB. I have swivel eyes on the Disco so far so good.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old October 13th, 2005, 09:35 AM
Eric Siepmann
Status: Offline
Eric W. Siepmann
1997 Defender 90 SW
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chicago, IL, Cook
Posts: 883
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bowtracer
Go DB hooks suck.LOL!! I have ruined a couple of straps from them falling off hooks at the wrong time. The hook pierced the strap at the loop. They have a tendency to bend & break as well. I have broken one. Positive anchor with the DB. I have swivel eyes on the Disco so far so good.

The hooks are less than optimal, but I rarely use them anyway. That's why I have a winch. I think the DB's have they're place, but there are definetly other options.

EwS
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old October 13th, 2005, 06:20 PM
johnlee
Status: Offline
John Lee
Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Torrance, CA
Posts: 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Siepmann
Dixon bates as the only proper kit? That's an EE fashion statement if I ever heard it.

EwS
How did EE get dragged into this? If we truly believed DB's were the only way to fly, then why would we sell hitch pins, safety tow hooks, JATE Rings, transit clusters, SMB's, receiver shackle brackets, and so on?
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old October 13th, 2005, 09:52 PM
Eric Siepmann
Status: Offline
Eric W. Siepmann
1997 Defender 90 SW
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chicago, IL, Cook
Posts: 883
Although both questions appear rhetorical, I'll answer reputation and selection, respectively.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old October 18th, 2005, 03:43 AM
Broke It
Status: Offline
Dave Butler
99 disco
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Encino, CA, USA
Posts: 21
Ships Mechanical has moab winch bumpers designed for rovers 1 (503) 252-5556 ask for Doug or Neil. these bumpers do not bend or break. the recovery points are welded inside and out. I used my bumper for moving large boulders and fallen trees. You can also see them at recoverygear.com
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old October 18th, 2005, 08:06 AM
Mike Hippert's Avatar
Mike Hippert
Status: Offline
D-90Slut/Stalker,SNLPres
94 D-90 Grinding Rover
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester NH USA
Posts: 4,789
These ones

http://www.recoverygear.com/smsi.html
__________________
Don't forget to
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
first then ask questions later! The loose nut behind the wheel
Reply With Quote
Reply

Lower Navigation
Go Back   Defender Source > Defender & Series Technical Discussions > Defender Technical Discussions

Tags
bumper, cover, winch

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
WANTED. '94 lr hd winch bumper scout x Wanted 0 January 1st, 2006 09:10 AM
Heavy Duty winch bumper for 90/110 k4rovers For Sale - Parts 2 December 28th, 2005 01:06 AM
Safari Gard winch bumper and winch m016324 For Sale - Parts 3 September 20th, 2005 09:52 PM
D-90 Winch Bumper Capt Milks For Sale - Parts 0 August 27th, 2005 08:35 AM
Custom winch bumper Jase For Sale - Parts 5 August 19th, 2005 05:27 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:52 AM.


Copyright