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Old July 9th, 2008, 11:07 AM
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I've gotten 2 small trips off-road w/ my 90 so far since I got her in January and enjoyed both a lot and look forward to doing some more.

The truck came with a winch and I've been piecing together parts for a 2" lift and some 255/85-16 BFG MT's. Also have some used sliders on the way (thanks D90 classifieds).

My concern was what happens when I do get stuck. Going thru EE's site I came up w/ a list last night:

- Superwinch Receiver Shackle Bracket. (I already have and ARB shackle up front on the ARB bar)
- Bill Burke - 4-Wheeling America Getting UNStuck (might be lame I know, but I've heard really goods thing about his class but don't have the time to go anytime soon)
- Expeditionware Recovery Strap
- Expeditionware Tree Strap
- Expeditionware Black Hi-Lift Jack Isolator
- Hi-Lift 60" X-Treme Jack
- Hi-Lift Jack Off-Road Base
- Hi-Lift Jack Handle-All (The 4 piece shovel, axe, pick, sledge - I like it as it's small, compact, and strong)
- Bucket Boss Pro GateMouth Utility Bag - to keep everything together in 1 spot

I wanted to see what you seasoned pro's thought of the list. I would like to keep it @ $500. From my limited knowledge it seems like a good bang for the buck and can add to it as I get more into wheeling.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 11:53 AM
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Get one of those adapters that goes on the hi-lift that has a pin to fit into the bumper holes on the D-90. Leather gloves. I also carry a long length of rope to stabilize the truck if it's teetering.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 09:26 PM
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Jonathan - Thanks for the help. The rope and gloves I already have in the garage so that'll be easier on the wallet. I'll add the hi-lift adapter, IIRC they are around $50.
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Old July 9th, 2008, 09:55 PM
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The best thing to bring along is a buddy with another truck. Oh, and water. And a camera. In fact, if you have a buddy, I have a truck for sale
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Multiple tree straps, and add "snatch blocks" to your list. I have two arb brand and use them often. Often winching can't be done straight line and tree straps and snatch blocks are required.
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Old July 10th, 2008, 12:12 AM
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I love EE stuff too, but you could really cut down the price of your list with a little inginuity. The Hi-Lift base can be built with some scrap 3/4" plywould layered up with some glue and screws. Tractor Supply Company sells straps and shackles too. Cheap. I'm a greenhorn, but I haven't really seen any advantage of a 60" Hi-Lift. I think 48" can satisy most.
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Old July 10th, 2008, 10:10 AM
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Stopped carrying my Hi-Lift. i use the LR bottle jack more than I used the Hi-Lift.
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The high lift can be a winch but make sure you practice using the high lift as a winch before you get to the trail! A couple short lengths of 2" tubular climbing webbing are good to have to allow you to lift up a single wheel in the trail.. (Unless youget the specific high-lift wheel adaptor..)

also look into the "more power puller"..

you might want to pack a few lengths of cable w/loops or chain to use when winching w/the high lift because you get about 3 feet of jacking and then have to reset the whole thing, the stretchiness of the nylon straps makes the trucks actual movement a bit less.. nonstretching chain gives more movement for your effort..

make sense? (no coffee yet)

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I hardly ever use the hi-lift jack... I think the most use it's gotten has been to get freelanders unstuck. I'd save your money on the hi-lift stuff... get a good tree strap and recovery strap, and also perhaps a snatch block, that's come in use a bunch...
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Buy a used winch and a cheap winch plate. Winching with a highlift is unbearable for more than a few feet and nearly impossible with a strap (you need to use chain as it does not stretch).
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Old July 10th, 2008, 02:34 PM
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He says he already has a winch. As far as the high lift goes, get the shorter one. I have a 60" and it's length makes it a bitch to mount and I don't think I've needed it for anything a 48" couldn't have handled.
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Hi Charles.

Want me to bring a cutoff wheel to the next NoVA Happy Hour?

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He says he already has a winch. As far as the high lift goes, get the shorter one. I have a 60" and it's length makes it a bitch to mount and I don't think I've needed it for anything a 48" couldn't have handled.
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Oh, if you have a winch, get a tree strap and a snatch block. Next on my list would be some extra rope if you wheel places without a lot of anchorable items.
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Don, I have the Bill Burke cd's I'll sell you. I found it helpful to watch how these tools were designed to be used. It does sound lame, I agree, but knowing how these tools were designed to be used will either save you time, money, or even a finger or two.

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Old July 10th, 2008, 09:35 PM
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Clay - I'll take the B. Burke, but is it a DVD for a TV or CD for a computer? Didn't think about it but yeah, it could mean saving a finger or 2 getting yourself out.

It sounds like the Hi-Lift is a hit or miss and the 60" isn't necessarily recomended. I was hoping to mount it on the cage behind the front seats - lower than the Tuffy- out of the way. I am running Corbeau seats so the stock jack is a PITA to get out anyway, so I might just go with the Hi-Lift to have a jack easliy accessable. Or maybe I'll pull the stock jack out when I have a chance this weekend and see if I could mount that behind the cage itself.

Snatch Block will be added to the list - seems like an important piece - sounds like it would be more important than a Hi-Lift.

I do have winch - Warn XD9000 that came with the truck. I pulled the line all the way out and found that the bolt holding it to the drum was missing. Replaced the bolt and pulled the line in as tight and neat as I could - so it seems the winch works - altough I'll need to try it under load.

Thanks for all the help guys - I'll need to order this pretty soon so I have it for a possible trip in August.
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I have a receiver hitch I will send you cheap.
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Old July 10th, 2008, 11:51 PM
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I have a receiver hitch I will send you cheap.
Does it look something like this? If so, I'll definitely take it.

https://www.expeditionexchange.com/r...r/DSC08976.jpg
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I've gotten 2 small trips off-road w/ my 90 so far since I got her in January and enjoyed both a lot and look forward to doing some more.

The truck came with a winch and I've been piecing together parts for a 2" lift and some 255/85-16 BFG MT's. Also have some used sliders on the way (thanks D90 classifieds).

My concern was what happens when I do get stuck. Going thru EE's site I came up w/ a list last night:

- Superwinch Receiver Shackle Bracket. (I already have and ARB shackle up front on the ARB bar)
- Bill Burke - 4-Wheeling America Getting UNStuck (might be lame I know, but I've heard really goods thing about his class but don't have the time to go anytime soon)
- Expeditionware Recovery Strap
- Expeditionware Tree Strap
- Expeditionware Black Hi-Lift Jack Isolator
- Hi-Lift 60" X-Treme Jack
- Hi-Lift Jack Off-Road Base
- Hi-Lift Jack Handle-All (The 4 piece shovel, axe, pick, sledge - I like it as it's small, compact, and strong)
- Bucket Boss Pro GateMouth Utility Bag - to keep everything together in 1 spot

I wanted to see what you seasoned pro's thought of the list. I would like to keep it @ $500. From my limited knowledge it seems like a good bang for the buck and can add to it as I get more into wheeling.
Your WAY overdoing it. Which is the trademark of a good rover owner, so don't feel bad. All you need is a 48in highlift (yes you need it, bringing only a bottle jack gives you no way to deal with some typical breaks and is useless in many situations). A strap, and a snatchblock. Buy the stuff on ebay and spend the other $400 on CV's and axles.
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Naah. I thought about cutting mine down, but actually aquired a 48" jackall for cheap a while back. I just need to clean it up a little and slap some grease on it (or swap shafts with my high lift)
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I favor the 60in highlift, but I sold both of mine after I saw someone nearly killed by one (he lost an eye).

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