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Old October 7th, 2015, 04:52 PM
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I have a new turbo and new horns and they are NOT snug. You can slip them in and turn them which is not what I expected. I suspect the reason for the forgiveness is so you can position them where you need to when lining them up on the head.
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Old October 7th, 2015, 04:58 PM
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I have a new turbo and new horns and they are NOT snug. You can slip them in and turn them which is not what I expected. I suspect the reason for the forgiveness is so you can position them where you need to when lining them up on the head.
Ok perfect that sounds very similar to how mine are. One is a bit snugger than the other, but you can put them in and rotate them. I can get a bit of wiggle if try to move them side to side (not much though).

I was expecting a much snugger fit as well, but was also wondering how the heck I was going to get them in the right spot and in phase.
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Old October 7th, 2015, 05:03 PM
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Silicone is useless. The exhaust runs much hotter than it can take and will burn it off. You can get exhaust cement. Should be at any auto parts store.
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Old October 7th, 2015, 05:20 PM
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Red, thanks that's helpful to know, you thinking something like this then?

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Old October 7th, 2015, 05:27 PM
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Red, thanks that's helpful to know, you thinking something like this then?

Permatex 80335 - Muffler & Tailpipe Sealer | O'Reilly Auto Parts
Yes, that kind of stuff. You should find something similar in the exhaust section of any auto parts store. Just don't put it on until you are ready to bolt up to the head.
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Old October 7th, 2015, 05:28 PM
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Yes good to know. Looking at the stats it seems the exhaust can hit 700c which would torch that copper stuff we were looking at.
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So I've got myself a new turbo a genuine garrett (minus the horns) and have removed the old horns from the old turbo. They were a real struggle to get out but they slide into the new turbo with no problem.
How tight should these fittings be? Should there be some sort of exhaust sealant put in there first? Obviously I don't want it to leak.....
What was the trick you used to get the old horns out? I may be up against this job helping someone replace a turbo in the near future so any hints you can pass along are much appreciated . Initially was thinking of just replacing the horns as well, but if they can be reused even better....
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Old October 8th, 2015, 10:48 AM
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I put the old turbo in a vice then heated the turbo section of the manifold (where the horns slide in) with oxyacetylene torches. Then had a pair of channel locks on the horns pulling while tapping the the horn side to side and from the backside with a brass hammer. It took a while but they're out.
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Old October 20th, 2015, 09:51 PM
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Just a little follow up on the sealant for the horns. It seems quite a few people have been using permatex red or copper with good success (even though they are rated much lower than the temperature). One local rover mechanic was kind of horrified at the prospect of using an exhaust cement in case some broke off inside and went through the turbine... Anyway I'm not quite at the installation point yet so more food for thought.
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Old October 21st, 2015, 04:32 AM
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What part of the turbo are the horns? Does a 200tdi from a disco have them? Sorry I ask but I rebuilt my turbo and didn't seem to have trouble with my "horns"...
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What part of the turbo are the horns? Does a 200tdi from a disco have them? Sorry I ask but I rebuilt my turbo and didn't seem to have trouble with my "horns"...
I beleive he is talking about a 300 application like this. The 200 manifold is different.
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Old October 21st, 2015, 10:02 AM
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I beleive he is talking about a 300 application like this. The 200 manifold is different.

Yep that's what I was talking about.
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The 200TDI has the horns as well. They are in the manifold.
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Just had a look and my 200 has -what looks like- just one horn. I didn't touch the manifold when I did my turbo
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Just had a look and my 200 has -what looks like- just one horn. I didn't touch the manifold when I did my turbo
Dont need too...other than taking it off
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Old October 24th, 2015, 12:20 PM
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I found this place: Landrover - www.nkkturbos.co.uk

They sell all the parts as well as complete assembly turbos without the housings. 141 pounds plus shipping for the complete assembly 200 or 300 TDI.
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Old October 26th, 2015, 10:03 AM
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Another option: Garrett TB02 TB0243 Turbocharger CHRA Cartridge 443854-0033 Turbo Core
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Old October 26th, 2015, 10:23 AM
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I lucked out and got a new genuine Garrett on ebay for $600CDN (whats that like $450 US) shipped to my door. Worth trawling the fleabay too.
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Reviving....

has anyone done the CHRA implant? Anyone? I think I am going to pick one up and give it a shot. Seems like a good way to go. Just wondering if anyone can offer up experience.
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Jonesy,

I bought a rebuild kit off the bay and did mine after watching a few Utube vids. It was fairly simple takes stuff off and replace. The hardest part with mine was that 2 studs broke off the exhaust side and I had to drill them out. They were tempered from the heat so it was difficult to get done. As for performance, the jury is still out as I only have about 6 miles on the rebuild.

The story is here; http://poppageno.blogspot.com/2015/0...ver-turbo.html

and here; http://poppageno.blogspot.com/2015/0...bo-update.html
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