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Old April 26th, 2016, 11:07 PM
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Rear view mirror glue that actually works?

My rear view mirror has fallen off multiple times and I can't find a glue that actually works.

The last glue I tried was a 3m two part and it broke free when I tried to adjust the mirror (like the other glues)

It's smart that Series & ROW defenders don't use glue....


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Old April 27th, 2016, 12:48 AM
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I had the same experience, ended up using 2 part epoxy. Been there over 2 years now.
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Old April 27th, 2016, 08:52 AM
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My rear view mirror has fallen off multiple times and I can't find a glue that actually works.

The last glue I tried was a 3m two part and it broke free when I tried to adjust the mirror (like the other glues)

It's smart that Series & ROW defenders don't use glue....

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A windshield installer should be able to help you with that..they have the best stuff, not the cheap store glue.
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Old April 27th, 2016, 02:03 PM
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Just fit a ROW mirror.
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Or skip the mirror. Mine was sitting in the center console when I bought the truck.
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Old April 28th, 2016, 07:25 PM
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Or skip the mirror. Mine was sitting in the center console when I bought the truck.
I often remove mine, just leaving the mounting button on the glass, you'd be surprised at how much of the view the mirror takes up.
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This is the only one that we have had work long term:

https://www.zoro.com/loctite-adhesiv...w&gclsrc=aw.ds
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Old April 29th, 2016, 07:34 AM
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I often remove mine, just leaving the mounting button on the glass, you'd be surprised at how much of the view the mirror takes up.
Any thoughts on how to remove the mounting button? My new windscreen has one but the RRC mirror mounts to the roof.
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Old April 29th, 2016, 12:07 PM
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Probably best answered by a glass installer.
When I had them removed the 2 posts on the rear glass that held the 3rd brake light assembly on, he held the end of them with pliers and used a hand held MAP gas heater to warm them up. They popped right off when heated.
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sorry for nerdirrific chemistry, but polymers generally have poor adhesion to glass. My brother and I have been discussing organo-silanes for adhesion promotion to glass for biofilms but epoxies are identical. The tradename is APES although technology improves. Google APES and will find APES Silanes used to create primary bonding between glass and epoxy.
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You don't use it now. You wont in the future.

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Thanks Rocky, it looks like 3M has an OTS Silane PN #AP115.

I'm not sure what chemistry it is. Because the chemistry is proprietary, it probably doesn't use positive charge sites to increase the surface energy of the primed glass surface that 3-Aminopropyltriethoxysilane does.

The techsheet says that it's used to create a hydrophobic surface on glass, and application sounds similar to the two-cloth method that Rain-X (another silane, but totally different from AP115) uses to create a monolayer. The idea is to try to create a one-molecule thick layer of the AP115 on top of the glass on which the epoxy attaches.

Might be worth giving it a try.
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Old April 30th, 2016, 10:02 AM
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I wish I had seen this thread earlier. Just glued my mirror back on with the stuff you get at the auto parts stores - which clearly doesn't hold up to teenagers. Maybe I'll remember this thread next time. Yes, there will be a next time
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