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Old July 12th, 2004, 10:36 AM
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Rear recovery point

Hey Guys,

What is a good option for rear recovery, once the rear bumper is removed? I'm going to install my rear stainless skid plate, and figured it was a good time to remove the rear tail dragger. But that's currently my recovery point with a hitch shackle. I love the Dixon-Bate 5-ton jaw, but that's just a little too much $$$ right now. I don't really care if I continue to have a receiver hitch, as I've seen some that bolt onto the cross member and hang below, although I suppose if I had that I could use it for recovery?

Just wondering what anyone else is using that works. I guess I'll spend the $$$ on the Dixon-bate if I really HAVE to...

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Old July 12th, 2004, 10:49 AM
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I can't think of any way of getting around the dixon bate Dave.

If you do get one, make sure you pick up a mounting plate for the backside of the cross member. It's best to install when that tank guard is off, obviously. It's slightly painful to install with the NAS tank as their is little room to cram your hands in. I would highly recommend getting yourself a magnet to help facilitate it and recover lost washers and nuts as you drop them into the crossmember.
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Old July 12th, 2004, 11:00 AM
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Good to know, thanks Dave... BTW, are you going to bison county this week? (as I hijack my own thread) I'm dying to check out your truck with it's new 'heart'.
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Old July 12th, 2004, 11:04 AM
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Thinking about it. I'm still trying to sort out an issue or two that came up this weekend with truck handling. So it depends on whether I can sort it out before Wed. Who else is going?
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Old July 12th, 2004, 12:23 PM
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www.roveraccessories.com/rover-accessories.htm scroll down to the bottom, you can keep the revciver if you like. I think thats more versitle than the dixon bate.
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Old July 12th, 2004, 01:06 PM
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This might be a stupid question... How does one remove the rear step and receiver on the NAS 90 rear end? I've seen some 90's with what appears to be the standard Series LR rear crossmember without the step and receiver. Break out the cutting torch or what?
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Old July 12th, 2004, 01:15 PM
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Just bolts ups its intuitive, Most land Rovers dont have the rear step bumper, All the NAS trucks have it. If you take off the bumper all that will be there is the rear crossmember.
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Old July 12th, 2004, 01:18 PM
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Ron, it's all bolts on the back side of the cross member on your truck. You don't even have to remove anything else to access them.

However, with no rear bumper and nothing back there. Obviously, the risk of someone rear-ending you and doing damage to your frame goes up.
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Old July 12th, 2004, 02:42 PM
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Could go for one of those cool Nato pintel hitches.
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Old July 12th, 2004, 04:26 PM
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Hmm, how heavy is the rear bumper?
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Old July 12th, 2004, 04:43 PM
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Heavy. Not sure on exact since I don't have a scale. But when you take it off and start adding the rear hitch plate and a dixon bate, and maybe some rear quarter panel protection...

You even out in the weight race.
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Old July 12th, 2004, 04:56 PM
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Except for the DB and the receiver, it looks like this underneath the rear bumper that just bolts on?
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Yup. That's your rear cross member.
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Old July 12th, 2004, 05:20 PM
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That's John Lee's truck, and I remember what a hassle it was getting the big dixonbate pin out upwards with that spare tire mounted the way it is.
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Old July 12th, 2004, 06:13 PM
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It is, sorry I failed to give credit on the photo...
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Old July 12th, 2004, 08:12 PM
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NP, just pointing out that if you mount the db pin under the tire like that, you'll probably wind up using the hitch mounted shackle anyway. John gave me a tug at Truckhaven a couple of years ago, and I think we used the hitch shackle because of the spare tire being in the way of the db.
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Old July 12th, 2004, 11:35 PM
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I dont have a dixon bates setup, but looks like a perfect enough setup. First off , doesnt the recovery veh usually have the strap in his truck? Sooo ----open ----the door---- attach the strap to your masterbates unit and close the door. I sometimes hook up the strap and then close it in the door until someone needs it. Whats the problem again? Also if your rear door is welded shut, you could put pin in from the down side. Its held in by a cotter pin. And the main pin is as strong either way. Also consider a four bolt rec hitch {rover assessories}, yah it hangs down a wopping 2 inchs. I have scraped off many ledges with it. No issue,
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Old July 12th, 2004, 11:55 PM
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LOL, good one JP. Guess you settled that one. Reminds me of using a bucket to put out the fire and stumbling over the hose.
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Old July 13th, 2004, 11:48 AM
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thanks for all the great input guys. I had been thinking about the spare tire when looking at the truck last night Doug, but not the simply solution JP has for it!
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Old July 13th, 2004, 11:56 AM
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Dave, I used the NATO style hitch until I had Rockware build my current bumper. The NATO bolts onto the crossmember but the best I recall I had to drop the tank to bolt it on.

The NATO style hitch should be available at a trailer parts supplier and they are not very expensive.

Without the NAS rear bumper the crossmember looks very vulnerable. But any contact that bends the NAS will also bend the crossmember where it is bolted on.

A strap loop "can" slip out of the Nato style hitch. It is a good idea to connect the pull strap to the hitch with a D ring shackle.
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