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Old October 28th, 2004, 01:53 PM
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rear light electiral hook ups

Attached is a photo of my rear right electrical bundle. While fixing a really shoddy speaker install, some of the connections came undone (gee my speaker install is seemingly shoddy to but much cheaper).
My rear right light became unplugged as is the center rear light.
Rear right is red with an orange line (at least that is the one wire unplugged as I assume it is it)
Center light is a one sold red and one solid black wire

Oh, and my trusty local LR dealership could not/would not let me see a wiring diagram but would let me drop it off for a repair - at $95 an hour. I guess FORD really is in charge.
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Old October 28th, 2004, 02:59 PM
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I cant see it clearly enough to trace the wires, so I cant help there much.

But the center brake light is the only one back there that should unplug - the outer taillights are part of the harness.

What is working and what isnt?
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Old October 28th, 2004, 03:24 PM
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My rear right tail light is not working. I am sure it just came unplugged and I assume a red w/ orange line wire (seen on the upper right of photo with metal end sticking straight up) is it and would connect into a joiner with the same color on it. I can not see one.

Second is the rear center brake light. I have the wiring with 1 black and 1 red coated wire. Looking at the bundle just do not know what to connect where?
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Old October 28th, 2004, 03:29 PM
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Let me take pix when I get home.
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Old October 28th, 2004, 07:15 PM
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more detail from my side + photos

I have attached 3 photos, all shrunk to fit.
In the photos, on the right side, wiring comes up into the tub from 2 holes.
Upper right hole is from the rear lights housing, the lower hole is coming from the front of the truck.

I seem to have 7 colors of wire: Green/ brown, green/purple, green/white, red/orange, red/black, purple, and black. A number of these are not connected to anything.
(seperate question: what can I wire up to these?).

I do have a connector for the red/orange, which is the only wire coming from the rear light housing not attached to anything. I assume red/orange to red orange. YES ?
In the 3rd photo, I am holding down the open connections, plus on the left of the photo are to 2 wires coming from the center brake light. Solid black, solid red. Where do these connect ?

Lastly, when looking at the connectors, the are multiple (1 or 2) pin recepticles. Why?

Oh and in the 3rd photo by my knuckle is a little hole where the speaker housing rivet used to be. Had to knock it out. One more little fix it item...
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Old October 28th, 2004, 08:01 PM
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Jesus, mine doesnt look like that...

I'm not sure why all that stuff is coming up thru the hole in the floor.

I got home late tonight and couldnt take pix. I'll do what I can tommorow.
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Old October 29th, 2004, 12:06 AM
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I just read that and laughed.. oh the singularity of the D-90.
It looks like it was spliced at some time, but for what I can not tell.

The short of it... only the rear right tail light is important. I guess if I connect the colors my potential downside is small. I just have this mental vision of the whole thing frying.

Again, thanks for the laugh.
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Old March 30th, 2005, 07:04 PM
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I tried to get a response under an old thread I had about this but no luck.

My wire look exactly the same as yours ?? We both have 94's.......anybody else out there have this mess instead of the "standard" LR harness. I thought the PO did it to my truck, but my connection are exactly the same as Pauls................. ??

now I'm really confused.

Anybody have a wiring schematic for the 94 ligthing system ??


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Old March 30th, 2005, 07:35 PM
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It is easy enough to figure out with a circuit tester and a pad of paper to take notes. just hook up the tester and turn on running lights. note what wires are hot.... than do your turn sigs, brake etc
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Old March 30th, 2005, 07:37 PM
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LOL mine looks the same as Pauls! But I do have the Manual
on the trailer plug thingy you have 7 pins,
Pin 1 is (does not say the color) and goes to the right tail lamp
Pin 2 is GP=green/purple and goes to the stop Lamp
Pin 3 is GW=green white and goes to the right directional
Pin 4 is GR=green/red and goes to the left Directional
Pin 5 is B=black and goes to Ground
Pin 6 is not used
Pin 7 is RB=red/black and goes to left tail lamp

Now in da back by the speaker the colors and junk are like this per el manual

right tail lamp RO=??
left tail lamp RB=red/black
left Directional GR=green/red
right directional GW=green/white
stop lamp GP=green/purple

Hope this helps, I don't know how right it is as it's out of the manual
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Old March 30th, 2005, 08:19 PM
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In my '94 the wiring is identical to the photos. The information Mike posted is correct. For the right tail lamp RO= Red/orange. There should be an open space in each of the multi connectors. If you have the bullet ends and the crimping tool you can just plug the trailer connector right in without splicing anything.
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Old March 30th, 2005, 08:40 PM
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Thanks folks, I'll be takin care of this friday am after I take the red-eye home from LA.

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Old September 29th, 2006, 03:50 PM
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Just FYI, my '94 has the same wiring, and can confirm Mike and Mark are correct on the colors. Was a piece of cake thanks to this thread.


right tail lamp RO=red/orange
left tail lamp RB=red/black
left Directional GR=green/red
right directional GW=green/white
stop lamp GP=green/purple

Oh and I should mention I just used a cheap universal trailer wiring kit from the parts store (something like that one on etrailer.com).

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I have a question about this... but first, as you've figured out, the 94's are as shown in the pics above. 95's have the lights wired right into the harness with no connectors.

When re-wiring the 94, I was trying to match up the colors, however the situation that I was confused about is as follows: Coming from the harness, there are two red/orange wires going into one side of a connector. Coming from the tail-light, there is only one red/orange wire. Do I just plug the single red/orange from the tail-light into the double red/orange in the connector? Or is there another wire missing here somewhere?

Why is there two wires coming from the harness and only one from the tail-light anyway? Is the extra location for trailer lights or something?
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Old October 24th, 2008, 02:36 PM
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You are not missing any wires. The extra is to plug in a trailer harness. I did this on my red 1994.
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Old October 24th, 2008, 02:46 PM
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Thanks, that's what I thought, just wanted to make sure!
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Keep in mind these are the same people that put an A/C compressor in "97s that didn't have A/C rather than design an idler pully, and Disco II's come with the heating elements in seats even if you order it without heated seats. All you have to add is the switch...

My 110 looked pretty much like that same rat's nest before, but I sorted it all out and replaced those POS bullet connectors with weatherpak connectors like a modern vehicle.
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It was designed that way (although not all DIIs had the elements).

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Oh I know it was, but it still seems so ridiculous. I mean if you're going to go to the expense of installing everything but the switch, why not just add the switch and raise the sticker price by a couple hundred bucks to recoup the cost of the wiring and elements?
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Because people in florida were thought to not like heated seats.

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