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Old September 23rd, 2004, 12:14 PM
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Rear disc brake options

What is available? Anyone here done it?
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Old September 23rd, 2004, 12:19 PM
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DO you have the Rover rear or Sals rear? THe Rover rears come with Discs on 90s, and I know you can get discs for the Sals, as Yousef has Discs on his.
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Old September 23rd, 2004, 12:51 PM
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Mike,

Yes it is the Rover Sals. The 90's did not come with a Sals did they?
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Old September 23rd, 2004, 01:00 PM
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Old September 23rd, 2004, 01:08 PM
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Talk to Keith at Rovertracks I bet he could set you up with a set.

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Old September 23rd, 2004, 01:34 PM
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Thanks. I will do that.
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Old September 23rd, 2004, 04:36 PM
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A friend just did a 110 rear disc conversion. It was a complete bolt-on using all standard LR parts. When you add it all up, it's quite pricey. I think the most economical option may be to get a used disc brake Salisbury axle from someone like RDS. If you want a built HD axle, then yeah, check out RoverTracks. Here's the parts my friend used:

1 FTC1725 Axle shaft LH
1 FTC1724 axle shaft RH
2 FTC4785 hub seal inner
2 FTC5241 washer key front axle
2 571752 drive flange gasket
10 BX110095M drive flange bolt
2 FTC3179 lock washer
4 RTC3429 hub bearing
2 FTC3649 stub axle gasket
2 RUC105200 drive flange
2 FTC942 hub assembly
2 FTC1740 stub axle
2 549473 circlip
10 FTC1368 bolt, rotor to hub
1 SMD100260 mudshield LH
1 SMT100270 mudshield, RH
2 FTC3846 rotor
1 SFP000280 brake pads
4 FTC3375 caliper bolt
1 ANR2779 brake pipe
1 NTC7964 brake pipe RH
2 FTC3306 caliper bracket
1 STC1268 caliper RH
1 STC1269 caliper LH
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Old July 7th, 2006, 02:17 PM
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Ryan,

Can you get your friend to give a report out on this conversion? Any issues since? How's performance changed, and local parts sourcing? this is a great list. I'll bet some of these parts can be sourced used, and some appear to be shared with Range Rover Classics.
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I wonder if you could do it using disco hubs and disco shafts? EDIT: those hubs are just standard rover ABS style hubs, I have them.

I have a brand new set of rear calipers if you need those.

Follow-up Post:

It looks like you have to buy new shafts with flanges (assuming disco I ones do not fit), stub axles (spindles) and caliper brackets, everything else looks like it crosses with D90/disco/RRC parts commonly available used (some brake part numbers (like rotors) are different but I think they are basically the same)
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Old July 7th, 2006, 03:28 PM
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call Keith he has the parts you will need. or knows wha is needed. I looked into it a while back
its not that bad the most expensive part I remember is the cals
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Old July 7th, 2006, 03:44 PM
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It is not going to affect performance. Drums and discs give the same performace when both are in good conditions (on these vehicles in the rear). The downside of drums is that usage in mud wears them fown faster.
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Old July 7th, 2006, 03:52 PM
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The drums I have work great BUT you have to keep them adjusted. with that said the masters seem to leak frequently. ooh well they are cheap
i added vented rotors & cals to the front & she stops scary fast now
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Old July 7th, 2006, 03:54 PM
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A UK company that do this kind of product:

www.zeus.co.uk
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Old July 7th, 2006, 10:08 PM
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Ryan,

Can you get your friend to give a report out on this conversion? Any issues since? How's performance changed, and local parts sourcing? this is a great list. I'll bet some of these parts can be sourced used, and some appear to be shared with Range Rover Classics.
Mark,

The conversion was done for a customer so the guy I know doesn't have daily use of the truck. And the parts were all purchased new from the dealer so hence quite expensive. If you're able to track down used parts, it may start becoming cost-effective. It looks like Ron has some of the interchangeability figured out so that would help in finding used stuff.

I wish I knew how the rear discs affected performance, but I haven't heard anything. I don't think there's been any problems, but I don't know how much it's improved the braking. I'll know eventually as I'm getting a used disc Salisbury from the UK. However, I probably won't get it swapped over until the end of the year.

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are the current 110's on sals or something else, seem like the last (newest 110) I recall was the CKD on RR "axles" perhaps I am wrong. Would it be hard to convert to what the new (er) 110s are using?
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seems like most of the parts in that list are interchangeable with the D90 (except axle/CV) and are not mandatory for the swap if in good cond.. I would imagine the key parts for the swap would have to be the Caliper mounts, Calipers, rotors ,pads and brake lines. The rear calipers are cheaper than the front.. (single piston vs double piston). I wonder how the double piston (frt.) caliper would feel on the rear of the NAS..
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Old July 8th, 2006, 09:02 PM
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are the current 110's on sals or something else, seem like the last (newest 110) I recall was the CKD on RR "axles" perhaps I am wrong. Would it be hard to convert to what the new (er) 110s are using?
Current model 110s use Rover style rear axles. Since around 2004, I think.
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I wonder how the double piston (frt.) caliper would feel on the rear of the NAS..
Scary, I think, is the word that would spring to mind
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Old July 9th, 2006, 10:58 AM
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I wonder how the double piston (frt.) caliper would feel on the rear of the NAS..

Do your brakes suck that bad or what!
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Old July 9th, 2006, 12:40 PM
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I hear the rear drums work almost as well as discs on the 110. I'm interested in the maintenance benefits. I had a 79 Jeep CJ7 with front discs and rear drums, and the rear drums SUCKED for maintenance!
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