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Old April 13th, 2010, 10:15 PM
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Rear Cross Member & Fuel Tank Cradle for NAS D90 question

Has anyone fitted a non NAS cross member w/ extentions to a NAS D90? I was looking at the paddocks cross member w/ extentions and it looks like you could removed the piece between the extentions and make it fit. Has anyone done this? Here is the link
http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/DEFE..._WA159806.html

Also I am looking for the NAS Fuel Tank Cradles (not the NAS fuel tank guard or skid plate). I know some folks have fabricated these, but I wanted to see if anyone offered them as parts. I noticed Richards Chassis has NAS D90 frames with these cradles welded on so I am trying to see if they would be willing to sell them to me as stand alone parts. Here is the link http://www.richardschassis.co.uk/NAS90.htm

And, If I was able to get these pieces galvanized would it be difficult to get a strong weld to the existing frame even if you grind back the galvanizing? The reason I ask, is that I have heard that the galvanizing can penetrate the steel and comprimise the strength of the welds to the frame. Obviously I want the back end to be strong for many reasons including towing, etc.

Thanks for any thoughts or help you can provide

I have 1994 NAS 90 that I have had since 2001. I am new to the forum, but was a member of the D90 Yahoo group for 8+ yrs -I dont know if any of those members are still around or are on this forum.

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Old April 13th, 2010, 10:22 PM
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I was on the yahoo group and there are a bunch of us around here.

Personally, I don't mind welding galvy to anything (I just get lots of fresh air) and don't think it hurts strength in something like that.

I think the piece there is just to stabilize the rails. I know the 110 one I bought from bozman has it. pic here:

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ht=crossmember

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Old April 13th, 2010, 10:33 PM
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Check http://www.the4x4center.com/ you might be able to buy the crossmember with extensions you need from them.

I contacted Richards Chassis about the same thing, they said no. They weren't interested in selling anything but chassis.
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Old April 13th, 2010, 10:45 PM
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Too bad about Richards..I was really hoping they would offer the cradles as sepparate pieces... I did have a conversation with the guys at the 4X4 center and they didn't want to sell the cradles or the extensions as sepparate pieces either. They look like they do nice work and the pieces look good.

I am thinking that someone that has fabriacated them has to be willing to sell them.. hoping anyway

Thanks for the feedback and good to hear members of the yahoo group are still around.
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You could always take it to the 4x4 center to have the crossmember done. It seems like they do good work from the pictures.
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Old April 13th, 2010, 10:51 PM
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You could always take it to the 4x4 center to have the crossmember done. It seems like they do good work from the pictures.
They do, I have seen some of their stuff first hand.
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Old April 14th, 2010, 07:46 AM
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I had my rear crossmember replaced. It had extensions. I got the cross memeber from Mike at LRWC PA.

I had a local welder do the job....He did an awesome job. The only difference is the new cross has more holes in it and the tabs that connect to the body are flush rather than tucked under and welded to the top of the member.
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There is another piece welded at the top center of the crossmember that will prevent the plastic fuel tank from fitting. On the 2 Paddock's I fitted last year, I modified the brace so it was still in place to provide some rigidity, but reduced it's size to clear the tank. Unfortunately for the first one, it was already in the car!
I think it was 105 for the part and 110 in shipping!
I bought the ones without extensions and ended up making a lot of patches as the metal in the frame was thinner than it first appeared. It's a trade off- spend the extra cash for the xmember with extensions and have a smoother, cleaner install, or spend the cash on fabrication.
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If you can not have anyone source you these I can copy them for you. It takes a bit of time and I charge to much though.

If someone is making these in quantity again I would like to buy a few of them. I ran out of the ones that were for sale seperate some time back.

Check around if anyone is replacing a frame to cut them off theo old frame for you.
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Jim - I assume you fabricated your fuel cradles? how much would you charge (mind me asking).

That is a good idea to ask around to see if someone did a galvanized frame swap and cut the cradle out of the old frame - the only thing is i could see it working for D90 that had frame damage, and needed a new frame. But if anyone was swapping a frame because the old one was too rotted, I would assume the cradles would be too far gone.

Does anyone know what the story is with the layered steel that Land Rover used for these pieces? water jst gets between the plys, they rot, and they lose all their structural integrity very fast. The frame is fine and it is right next the cradles - and the cradles are gone. The frame is definately a different & better steel.
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I am still trying to figure out if I can get NAS fuel tanke cradles (not skid plate). Has anyone fabricated them and selling them? Or does anyone have an old NAS frame, maybe someone that did a galv frame swap or has a frame that was damaged etc., and be willing to cut them out (if they are in good shape)?

I am also still trying to figure out if this cross member with extentions will fit an NAS 90 if the bar in between the extentions is cut out?
http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/DEFE..._WA159806.html

If anyone can help, please let me know. Thanks
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http://www.paddockspares.com/pp/DEFE..._WA159806.html

here is the link
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I can't imagine this is a hard part to put into CAD software and have someone cut and bend, but I guess someone has to do that. I am still undecided if I want to cut them off my D90 frame based trailer, mainly because it's work and I don't want to damage the frame doing it. But if I do, I'll offer them up for reproduction (someone already has dibs on them though).
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I am working on something in CAD and will have pieces made.
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Kenny -I would definately be interested the fuel tank cradles you are making. Thanks
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If you search here someone had this in CAD some time back. But when contacted last they could not have them made anymore. Maybe they will forward the CAD file to you if you can get it greated from a file.

Just an idea. I will try to find the post.
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rufus, where are you in ma? I have a good welder that did a great job on my 94.

I got a rear cross member from roversland.. it turned out to be for a 110 but my weleder made it work and look like stock, just more holes for diff applications.
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If someone is going to make up some fuel tank side brackets, or whatever they are called, count me in for a set too. I contacted RDS, but they said about 5 weeks until they get any 90 rear crosmembers with extensions. That was about 3 weeks ago. I haven't really been trying to hard, but haven't been able to find then anywhere else.

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I want the same thing. I have all the tank parts to install it but need to figure out the brackets.. Has anyone figured out how to do the filler neck on the tank since the filler is in front of the tire on the euro tubs?

------ Follow up post added May 1st, 2010 07:53 AM ------

Pendy, I think I contacted the guy about the brackets a while back with no response..
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I am still looking for the NAS Fuel Tank Cradles (not the NAS fuel tank guard or skid plate). This Richards Chassis link has some pics of the fuel tank cradles http://www.richardschassis.co.uk/NAS90.htm

I know some folks have fabricated these and I wanted to see if anyone offered them as parts? Some people said they were working on it w/ CAD?

Or if anyone had an old NAS frame and would be willing to cut out the cradles -maybe someone did a galvy frame swap or has a frame that got in an accident? (if the cradles are in good shape).

word to the wise, make sure you power wash around the fuel cradles and skid plate to clean out all the mud, sand, and grim. Years of offroading and having all that stuff trap moisture has paid its toll and rotted my cradles.

Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Rufus
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