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Old March 31st, 2010, 06:46 PM
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Been thinking about getting a RR but know very little about them. What model and year are the most desirable?
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Brody, don't think a Defender is the only option. While my judgment is tainted towards Range Rover Classics, there is much happiness in a Series Rover or a Range Rover or even a Discovery. The Range Rover in particular can be set up to be as capable as a Defender and still give you a plush ride home (if you don't mind bashed up corners). They can be had for mere peanuts too. Here in the East we lust for those rust free SoCal examples that sell for $900. Series Rovers too have much potential and always draw a crowd. Just sayin.
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Old March 31st, 2010, 06:46 PM
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I may have to get a classic or nice series while I wait for the perfect Defender. That is a good point. I owned a classic and loved everything about that car.
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Old March 31st, 2010, 07:25 PM
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1995 SWB Range Rover classics are some of the rarest and in my opinion the best RR theyve made. I also really like the 1995 RRC LWB. I currently own both if you want one
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Old March 31st, 2010, 07:31 PM
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I am more partial to the 1989 Range Rover :-)

You should sign up for lrrforums if you have not already...it's a message board with most people's being in California. There was a cool looking series IIA on there just recently.

PS www.rangerovers.net has a lot of range rover info
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Old March 31st, 2010, 07:36 PM
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I am looking for one too. I really want an early one but really any nice short wheel base will do.
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Old March 31st, 2010, 07:43 PM
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There are a lot of old RR I see driving around my area. All are older people who have had them since new and most look to be in perfect shape. I will have to start checking on as I see them. Most driven buy the blue hair crowd. I know of at least four I see at least twice a week here in Woodside. Will let you guys know if anything comes up. On another note a guy around the corner from me has a white RR. Not sure of the year but I think sub 2000. It is a six door,seven if you count the hatch door in back. Did LR make that or is it a custom job. I will try to get a pic but he never seems to bring it out.
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Old March 31st, 2010, 08:07 PM
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[QUOTE=Gore Ranger;213399]I am more partial to the 1989 Range Rover :-)
I like the earlier ones also. Just sold my 1988 and I loved that truck. I also owned a 1990 which i really liked. Im just saying the 1995 SWB tend to fetch the highest price of the RRCs because they were only sold for a half year and most people that bought RRCs that year bought the LWB. (the P38 came in 1995) I like the updated dash and airbags in the 95s. www.rangerovers.net is a great resource and Im happy to answer any questions.
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Old March 31st, 2010, 08:14 PM
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I can vouch for the Range Rover filling the bill for the "fix" we all need. Having owned both a Defender 90 and Defender NAS110 (both were in fantastic shape and were fantastic trucks), the Range Rover Classic if bought correctly and out-fitted right, can fill the need with much more "creature comforts".

Let's face it, Defenders are cold in the winter, hot in the summer, wet when it rains, and loud to ride in. Still cool, but very passenger "unfriendly"!

My wife much prefers the Classic over both Defenders we owned.

Just my two pennies.



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Old March 31st, 2010, 08:29 PM
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Do you want to offroad this truck? If so youll find pluses and minuse for each year.


87-88 had the Lt230 case which is stronger than the later Borg Warners. Downside is it has a 3.5 engine so it aint going to win any races but how fast can you go offroad anyway?

3.9s in the later year RRCs except the LWBs which had 4.2s.

I also think they went to 24 spline axles in 1995 which is another plus for the year.
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Old March 31st, 2010, 08:32 PM
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24 spline was introduced mid-1993.

1995s have a much better HVAC system and have airbags (for people, not the air springs -- which started in 1993 but almost all have been replaced) and the serp belt motor (so used disco I stuff is cheap and readily available for used ancillaries).

1995s are IMHO the nicest. I am partial to the LWB as I like sleeping in it.
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Old March 31st, 2010, 08:36 PM
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[QUOTE=evilfij;213418]24 spline was introduced mid-1993.

I almost added i wasnt sure if they were introd in 95 but i know they have them. Personally I like the LWB if you have kids. The back seat legroom is insanely spacious makes getting them in and out of car seats easier than any rover ive owned.
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Old March 31st, 2010, 08:41 PM
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It will be hard to find a Nice Defender for 15K. You can find a bunch of early RHD trucks with various engines for that and less. However most of them will need some tlc. If you go up to near 20's you can find an a NAS LHD truck that is high mileage but may be nice. You still might have to do some maintenance and engine work. Keep in mind that these are 13 years or older trucks. If you want a pristine truck that you can just drive from the start, you most probably have to pay more. My 2 cents
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what's the actual WB difference between the LWB and the SWB?
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LWB is wheelbase approx 400mm longer than the SWB

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what's the actual WB difference between the LWB and the SWB?
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so to answer my own question:

Range Rover Classic (US Spec)
Dimensions, Weights and Capacities
Length 175 inches (183 inches LWB models 1993 on)
Width 71.4 inches
Height 70.8 inches
Wheelbase 100 inches (108 inches LWB models 1993 on)
Track 58.5 inches front & rear
Turning Circle 39.4 ft (44.85 ft LWB)
Ground Clearance 8.0 inches
Fording Depth 20 inches (21.6 inches air suspension models hi profile)
Approach Angle 30 deg w/spoiler on (33 deg air suspension models hi profile)
40 deg w/spoiler off (43 deg air suspension models hi profile)
Departure Angle 30 deg (33 deg air suspension models hi profile)
Breakover Angle 29 deg (30 deg LWB hi profile, 33 deg County 1994-95 hi profile)
Luggage Capacity 36.2 cu ft (rear seat up), 70.6 cu ft (rear seat down)
Curb Weight 4,401 lbs (4574 lbs LWB)
GVWR 6,019 lbs
Payload 1,618 lbs
Max Trailer Wt 5,500 lbs with brakes (6500 lbs LWB), 1,650 lbs without brakes
Max Tongue Wt 550 lbs
Fuel Capacity 20 US gallons (to 1990), 21.6 US gallons (1991-95)




So I guess it's only 8 inches (203mm)
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Old March 31st, 2010, 09:54 PM
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Is seems to add more than that in rear leg room. Scroll down and check out the comparison pics of the leg room between an LWB and SWB. http://www.rangerovers.net/modelspecs/1993.html
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Old March 31st, 2010, 10:02 PM
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"All of the extra length of the LWB was in the rear door area so all the 100" sheet metal could still be used except the rear doors and roof."

every extra inch apparently went into legroom... you're right though, looks like they may have stolen even more

------ Follow up post added March 31st, 2010 07:04 PM ------

My kids will be driving RRCs when they turn 16 in 5-10 years... so you know, got to start looking now... maybe I should buy one early so it's ready for them...
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Old March 31st, 2010, 10:19 PM
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------ Follow up post added March 31st, 2010 07:04 PM ------

My kids will be driving RRCs when they turn 16 in 5-10 years... so you know, got to start looking now... maybe I should buy one early so it's ready for them...[/QUOTE]

Are you trying to convince yourself or just practicing your pitch to the wife?
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Old March 31st, 2010, 10:32 PM
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1995s are IMHO the nicest. I am partial to the LWB as I like sleeping in it.
Too many parts in the house???
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Are you trying to convince yourself or just practicing your pitch to the wife?


yes
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