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Old November 19th, 2013, 07:53 AM
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Re-trim early d90 seats

Has anyone recovered an early ~'85, hardback seat w/ the current re-trim kits? I am getting conflicting info from various vendors. Thank you.

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Has anyone recovered an early ~'85, hardback seat w/ the current re-trim kits? I am getting conflicting info from various vendors. Thank you.

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yes. I did a couple of sets of 1983 seats with exmoor's black leather kits. someone is giving you bad info
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I did a set using the Britpart kit and it worked well. The only small issue is that the side bolster section of the frame is slightly wider in the early seats than the later ones and you'll need to finesse the new foam onto the frame.
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Old November 19th, 2013, 09:26 AM
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thanks for the feedback and the tip.

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Success....almost

Well, finally got around to the retrim, seats look great in Techno and without the cracked hardbacks. Fitting the seatback foam was a bit fiddly and required some trimming due to these being early seats.

Now the question: How the hell does the Exmoor zip-lock strip work closing the setback bottom? No matter how much I try, can't seem to get the two sides to engage.... Looks like it shoul be a simple engagement. Any hints or tricks before I throw a tantrum and dig out the hog rings? Thanks.
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If the kit is like the one for my '88 with the rubber fixing strip around the bottom edge, then the Exmoor video should help you:



I followed this to the tee and the job went well, albeit a bit fiddly.
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Thanks.....I had watched those tutorials in prepping. They just seem to press the two sides together and they click.... I'll bring the other seat to this point then attack the seat backs again. My seat back covers are a bit tighter than in the video, I am guessing that's due to mine being the early type and these kits are universal or for the later type.
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I don't know how you are making the new covers fit the tray backs. They are quite different
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I don't know how you are making the new covers fit the tray backs. They are quite different
Yes they are significantly different as are the shapes of the seat back foams...but the seats came out pretty well, very well actually considering the differences. So, it can be done, but requires some fiddling and trimming of the seat foams. If anyone plans on doing this I will put up a more detailed post; where to trim the foam, etc.

I had the same concern but after the feedback here and from a few others, most saying fiddly but doable, I attempted it and it came out well except for the final step. The final step is more of me not being able to zip the two sides together...
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Pic of the results. Exmoor does make a very nice kit, if this was a later seat, this would have been a 2 hr job (excluding refinishing the seat frames)....and the only other time I've ever reupholstered seats was in 1991!

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Please share your experience. I have new retrim kits but cannot get it to fit the older hardback seat frames.
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Looks great! Glad you got it sorted.
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thanks Green... Mudsux, I took some pics as I was doing it so I will post them and some details in a few days or so.

The fit is too tight to use the stock zip lock finisher so the early frames may be just a bit taller. I resorted to several black zip ties effectively lacing the two pieces together. I am not thrilled, bit too much of a kluge for me especially as the rest came out so well, but you can't see them on a 90 and they could easily be covered w/ a flap of material. If I was doing it over again, I would still would still go this route.
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Here is what I did:

-Deepen the side bolster channels in the new seatback foam. This will allow the foam, especially the bolsters, to sit on the new seatbacks almost all the way back. You have to take out 1/2" or a bit more. In doing this you will be cutting through some of the woven reinforcement molded into the seatback. I reinforced the deeper grooves with Gorilla Tape, pressing it into the channels and overlapping the strips. This may be overkill as there is still a good amount of foam left after cutting.

-Taper the bottoms of the seatback foam side bolsters, this will allow the fabric face to pull under and around the bottom of the seatback, otherwise the outboard edges are very tight when you go to join the front and back together. Try to keep the original profile, just with less material.

-Taper the bottom edge of the seatback foam where it glues to the lower crossbar. Again, to enable the fabric to come under the seatback to join the backside of the cover.

-I removed the foam flap that folds over the headrest channel. It left a bulge and seemed to pull the headrest hole too far back (it will be stretched back a bit anyway).

The outer lip of the seatback foam will not be attached the seat frame all the way around..at least I could not get it to seat without more trimming then I wanted to do. The foam will seat on the top of the frame and maybe 1/3 of the way down, but the sides of the bolsters will angle forward a bit. Glue as much as you can, this will be unnoticeable with the covers on.

I'll add pics in the next post. I took these as I was working and the channel tape was not complete and the foam was only rough cut. Conservative trimming and many test fits are the way to go here. PM me if you have any questions.

------ Follow up post added December 30th, 2014 06:14 PM ------

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Just as an FYI, Julian has the patterns for these early seats. you have to contact Exmoor directly or thru RN. They do not make the foams any more for the backs, so you have to alter the new style,or like me, just stuff them into the cover.
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