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Old March 24th, 2014, 09:44 AM
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R380 Shift Lever Slop

The shift lever on my '95 R380 has a lot of slop and forces you to hunt for the right gear when shifting. There's very little spring and the shifter just feels loose.

Is this a simple overhaul? What are the parts that typically wear?
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Old March 24th, 2014, 03:16 PM
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Sounds to me like you need to tighten the bias springs on the shift tower
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There is also a piece under the shifter held in by an allen head set screw.
Have fixed several where the screw came loose and makes it hard to find the correct gear.
Tighten the set screw and you then have the feel of a completely different vehicle to drive.
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Old March 24th, 2014, 04:01 PM
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Is there a bushing in there that wears out as well? I've driven other trucks that have a very solid feel in the shifter and yes, definitely want mine to feel like a different vehicle in that regard.
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YOU need to investigate.... Pull the boot and look inside. Read the workshop manual.... Guessing your problem across the internet is silly...
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Old March 24th, 2014, 06:23 PM
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Atta boy John. Thanks for the enlightened response and the fatherly, "give a man a fish...teach a man to fish" lesson. I'm not sure why you're here, but I'm here to get information and to give information, where I can in a friendly community kind of way. If this thread bugs, just cruise by.

So, since you brought it up, I've got the workshop manual, but there's nothing like leaning on some real world experience and I'm sure there's plenty of that with shifter slop. Plus, I'm sure that 99% of the time the repair is the same for everyone, especially if wear parts are involved. Before getting in there I would just like to be armed with some helpful info and the likely needed parts on hand. Doesn't seem so silly.
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George:
John is an OK member and means well so no need to take offense.

After you pull the shift cover and shifter assembly, it will expose the inside of the main box (4 bolts).
You'll see the small flat lever piece about an inch square with a slot in it mentioned earlier with the set screw.
It will be easily to figure out where it goes.
Be sure and use a locking liquid that is not affected by transmission lubricant.
It is also an opportune time to switch to synthetic MT94 that will improve lubrication.
... and yes I agree that this advice is not in the manual, especially the part about taking no offense from John.
We get a lot of people who have absolutely no experience and want to talk and talk about how to fix a problem that they haven't got a clue as to how to fix...
Hopefully this thread provides the jump start you seek.

Let us know what you find, George and good luck.
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My point is that people have already told you the 95% most likely cause, a loose or broken bias spring or a loose pivot hold down bolt. Instead of investigating, where it takes all of 5 minutes, you come back asking for other possible problems.

Look up in the manual the section on the bias spring, take off the gaiter and look. If it is something else, only you can determine this. The time to type in these replies is longer than to look under the gaiter and see what is going on. If after you get there and can't solve it, take photos and come back for help.
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Old March 28th, 2014, 10:04 AM
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For anyone looking to refresh their gear changer here's a helpful link.

http://www.landroverexpedition.com/t...in-the-coffin/
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