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Old March 16th, 2013, 03:45 PM
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R380 fill plug

So, got me some redline MTL and 'm attempting to change the fluid in my tranny. I can see the drain plug but I think the fill plug is butchered beyond repair.

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And here's a close up of what I think is the fill plug...

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Is that the fill plug? Outside of drilling it, is there any other option to fill it? Thanks!
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Old March 16th, 2013, 04:00 PM
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Cleaning it may help ... It's a torx fitting. Can't recall the size. Just looks dirty not ruined from photo.
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Old March 16th, 2013, 05:50 PM
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Thanks Jason... I took a metal brush to it and I'm not sure that it's dirt, it looks more like it's fused in there for whatever reason - it looks really weird.

It sucks that it's snowing right now and I don't have a garage so I'll have to look at it again tomorrow. Thanks again!
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Old March 16th, 2013, 06:53 PM
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Should be Torx TX55
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Old March 17th, 2013, 04:08 PM
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T-55 Torn, pound it in with a hammer and get a big breaker bar.
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Old March 17th, 2013, 09:06 PM
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Then replace it with 1/2in square from an LT77 so you never have to deal with it again.
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Old March 17th, 2013, 11:12 PM
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I had issues with both of mine. Wire brush the crap out of the drain plug and apply liquid wrench. Wipe it off and apply a torch to it then use a breaker bar. Gently heating it up seemed to do the trick for me then I replaced it with new plugs that I put a little bit of anti-seeze on.
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Old March 17th, 2013, 11:34 PM
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Thanks guys! All good tips! Sounds like a half inch plug from an LT77 as Ron suggested and anti-seize as Carl suggested is the best way to go. Hopefully i can get the damn thing out with brute force and a long ass breaker bar.

Damn, I miss having a garage! I'll see what I can do this weekend.
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How did you get such clear photos? I have like 3 inches of clearance btw. the frame and my fill plug. Can barely get the damn wrench in there let alone a camera.

Worse comes to worse, you can fill it via the drain plug but it's messy you need to measure out the fluid accurately. A good hand pump (not the plastic autozone one) and a tightly fitting rag around the nozzle will do it if you go quickly.
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How did you get such clear photos? I have like 3 inches of clearance btw. the frame and my fill plug. Can barely get the damn wrench in there let alone a camera.

iPhone 5, flash and creative maneuvering.

I don't know about filling up through the drain plug... That's like trying to swim upstream, no? Sadly it's another work week so next I can look into it is this weekend.
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I don't know about filling up through the drain plug... That's like trying to swim upstream, no? Sadly it's another work week so next I can look into it is this weekend.[/QUOTE]

Oh it's by no means the desired course of action but if that fill plug is totally f'ed you probably have to remove the trans to get an ez out in there or drill it or whatever trick you want to try. Given what's involved to remove it, i'd rather just pump it up through the drain plug. It will work but you need a lot of rags and second set of hands.

Or you could drive the right side wheels up a loading ramp and see how far over your willing to lean the truck
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Can you weld a piece of sold 1/2" bar stock to it and then turn it with a wrench? Think hillbilly LT77 plug. The heat from the welding may also loosen up the plug. Wrench it out and install a new plug.
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If you follow my suggestions you will get them out. The key is that the bolts are clean and unmolested so that your socket is fitting on the drain bolt properly and not slipping and ruining the bolt. Mine had sustained a fair amount of abuse and the hex corners had been rounded off which made it even harder to get off.

Once cleaned apply liquid wrench around the edges so it seeps into the threads. Leave overnight. The key to success is the heat from a torch (apply at your own risk and use caution). If you heat the bolt and the surrounding area it will come out with a breaker bar.
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All good suggestions, thanks! Truck is sitting quietly in the driveway right now, hopefully I can tinker with it again this weekend after a bunch of goodies from RoversNorth shows up in my doorstep

I'll keep everyone posted!
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Is there still a vent on the top that you could fill through as an alternative?

I know...I'm thinking from a Series perspective...just wondering out loud....

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Is there still a vent on the top that you could fill through as an alternative?

I know...I'm thinking from a Series perspective...just wondering out loud....

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There is. The breather line is located just under the diff lock linkage on the right hand side. you'll need to remove the tunnel. the plastic line is fixed to a banjoe fitting held in by a hollow bolt. remove that and you can fill it. of course, if you remove your tunnel, it wouldn't be hard to put some heat on the fill plug to get that sucker out either. it'll be right there.
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