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Old August 29th, 2007, 09:25 PM
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Question Questions for you Diesel Defender owners

A few months back I drove a D90 with an International HS 2.8L TGV.

1) How many of you use your Defender as a daily driver?
2) Are you concerned with spare parts availability?
3) How do you deal with smog test (were applicable)?


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Old August 29th, 2007, 10:16 PM
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Hello Mike
as a 300Tdi diesel owner:
1. I do but also use my Honda Insight (60 mpg)
2. nope...as I understand it...a rather infrequent problem
3. we have emissions test in Illinois but diesels are exempt and not tested.
all in all I am enjoying the 30mpg in city a LOT!
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Old August 29th, 2007, 10:17 PM
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1) I split duties between the Defender and a Dodge truck. Nice days it's the Defender.
2) No, but I carry or keep most of the service parts and belts in the truck or garage. (300tdi)
3) No smog tests in South Carolina.
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1) I drive one of 2 diesels daily (my own) and drive many other customer rigs. Not sure where anyone gets the 30 mpg from as I have yet to see this from any diesel Rover.

2) not to worry about spares for a 300 tdi. International 2.8 is another story.

3) No smog (test) in Maine or NH.
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Old August 30th, 2007, 07:07 AM
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I drive my D-90 as daily transportation unless the temperature is going to reach into the high 90's or above (Rover air conditioning not being the most effective on the planet - the Honda CRV transportation appliance is better suited to days where the temperature is hovering around triple digits).

Between Rovers Down South and Rovers North I don't worry about parts availability. (300 Tdi)

No emissions test for diesels in Georgia.

Fuel mileage on both the Honda and the Rover are around 25 mpg - I'm looking forward to the 2009 CRV when it becomes available with the diesel - 42 to 50 mpg....
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Old August 30th, 2007, 08:54 AM
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Mine is my daily driver. New engine, so not concerned yet about major parts. service items are for the most part all available locally. going to stock up next year from uk imports in my garage.

diesels are exempt in north carolina
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Old August 30th, 2007, 09:52 AM
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Hi Matt,
just wanted to assure you of the fact that I can get 30mpg with my D90 300Tdi...OK, 29.7mpg...but I'll bet if I was really careful and didn't use any AC I'd beat 30! Just wanted you to know it can be done if you pump up your tires, don't use AC and drive with the "pulse and glide" style of driving. That being said, I don't always do it cause it takes concentration and I'm inherently lazy so most of the time when I'm not paying attention, I'll come in at 27mpg...
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As far as spares go, most of the stuff is readily available. However my recommendation would be to buy a small stock of spares that at some point, you'll need. water pump, altenator, injectors, glow plug relay, fuel pump, accelerator cable (I'm on my 3rd), belts. It gives you piece of mind of course, but it is more likely you'll need any one of these parts than something like a short block or turbo assembly. I look at it as decreasing my odds of being stranded. I don't carry it all, but I know that I can source replacements for my replacements.

I daily drive my 90 2-3 days a week in the summer. I have a disco for the winter and inclement weather. And take the train the other days that I don't need to drive.

No emissions for diesels in MA.
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1) How many of you use your Defender as a daily driver? I do, everyday.
2) Are you concerned with spare parts availability? Not a problem
3) How do you deal with smog test (were applicable)? No smog test down here
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The truck is a daily driver, primary vehicle actually.
Parts are readily available, have to order from somewhere, but thats no problem.
There is no smog test where I keep my truck registered in WA. They also changed my title to read "diesel"
I'll believe 30mpg when I see it. I think we got 28 one time when my wife was driving 55 on the freeway, but 24 is more common. Around town with no freeway driving is almost 26. If you use the accelerator very much, its easy to get 22 or less. I'm convinced all the 30mpg claims are from the UK guys who use imperial gallons.
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I drive my Ibex (think D90 but less complex ) every day. I have a 90mile round trip to work and back. I drove it for 40K with a 300 tdi, and I'm coming up on 35K with the 2.8. For the first 3.5 years it was a soft top.

Obviously 300tdi parts are easy to come by here in the UK, but the 2.8 is a bit different. It's a diesel... if cared for it will go for silly miles without needing anything except service parts, which you can order in ahead of time.

The emissions test here is also different of course, but registered as a modified vehicle it only gets a visible smoke check.
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Thanks for all of your replies! I take it that diesel smog tests are not that common.

I spoke to ERC and they stated that they do not install 300Tdi anymore...only on special requests and for off road use only. I like the simplicity of the 300Tdi and the improved gas mileage over the V8...although I still like V8's...

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drive with the "pulse and glide" style of driving. George
Almost....almost......almost.....well done!!

Seriously....congrats on your example of extreme driving control. I swap these things in on a regular basis (for offroad use only) and have yet to come even close to 30 mpg.I drive them daily as they are all I own and I don't own anything that has AC.
I've managed to tune them to the point of getting low 20's and having something that is really fun to drive (off road only).
Don't really want to get into the "great mileage debate" either.

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I'm lucky to get 16mpg
You're obviously using too much "pulse" and not enough "glide"
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If you can do it, do it. But understand there is always the risk that the EPA will track you down through State's DMV records and make you pay for breaking numerous laws including lying to cust. (if you read small print on those documents you know you can be in some deep shit if they want to drop the hammer.) All in all, the HS2.8L is a clean engine and IMHO is better than any V-8 except for the NOx emissions.

I have one in my disco, daily driver. I enjoy in everyday. I don't off-road, but the most amazing ability of this engine is how slowly and gracefully it pulls the vehicle over a 6" curb without even giving it any throttle.

As for spare parts, just save some money by installing it yourself, make a mistake during installation and damage the engine, get a whole other engine and keep the first one in your garage (like I had to do - check other HS2.8L threads on this board) for spares :-).
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