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Old April 14th, 2012, 11:35 AM
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Puma VS Defender

Still learning here......what's the difference ?

They appear to look the same so I guess my question would be, what makes a Defender a Puma ? Do puma's come in 90's and 110's ?
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Old April 14th, 2012, 11:37 AM
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The Puma is the Ford 2.4 TD motor... and a new bumped out bonnet.
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Old April 14th, 2012, 12:34 PM
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And six speed stick with crawler first gear. Engine and tranny tried and trustee on hundreds of thousands of Ford Transits.
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I don't know about the brakes, only their unreliability.
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Old April 14th, 2012, 01:54 PM
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upgrades in the interior as well, especially the dash. yes, puma comes in 90 and 110. 130 as well.
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Old April 14th, 2012, 05:15 PM
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Aweseome heat and AC...........almost alone likely make it worth it!!
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Old April 15th, 2012, 10:15 AM
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The latest 2012 Puma's are 2.2 litre. same BHP but more torque than the 2.4


The engine, as said, is used in the transit van. There's been a lot of speculation as to whether it's up to the job or now, as is the gearbox, but I think they're (LR/Tata) getting the niggles ironed out.

Pete @ Bells and Ashcrofts are tinkering with the 3.2 ford engine, trying to get that nailed into the defender (not sure if they're actually doing it together, but there's some talk of the 3.2 engine on the defender2 forum.

New dash is quite nice, although gives you even less knee room (if you're tall, you'll find your right or left knee, depending on L or RH drive) banging on the middle of the dash.
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Old April 15th, 2012, 05:43 PM
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Yeah, but is a Puma EMP proof?
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Diesel Jim mentioned a UK based defender group in the above post #6,
http://www.defender2.net/forum/index.php

In it I located a page on different diesel engines that have been installed in Rovers, interesting history, etc. On the left hand side of the page is listed the various diesel ingines.
http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/en/puma-duratorq
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Those transits can take a beating. We had a couple in NZ for our crew vans. They were beat hard and didn't give up. Not ever much work done to them as well. I was impressed.
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Old April 18th, 2012, 09:34 PM
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Those transits can take a beating. We had a couple in NZ for our crew vans. They were beat hard and didn't give up. Not ever much work done to them as well. I was impressed.
Only issue I had with one I drove in the UK was that downhill engine brake was really jerky with a manual... WAY worse than the old 2.4... Other than that, everything else was really nice.. interior was hugely upgraded with a dash that looks like it's out of the Freelander 2 - I will miss the scuttle vents though... Sigh.
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