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Old April 11th, 2015, 05:22 PM
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Puma seat part question...help!!

First, I'm an idiot. I ordered puma seats and am installing them in a NAS 110. Front seats were a breeze. The 60/40 split seems fairly easy, though I searched and found the video that shows how to accommodate for the difference in wheel well slope in the newer models. The question is that I'm not sure what these parts are. The rectangle bracket is I assume for the wheel well, though as I mentioned, doesn't fit. Any clue where the small piece goes or the l-shaped bar???? I'm so confused. Thanks for your collective wisdom. I'm almost out of beer and still can't figure it out
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Old April 11th, 2015, 09:21 PM
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That little piece in the middle looks like the spacer that slips into the end of your rear crossmember so you don't crush it when you tighten the bolts holding the internal supports for the back hoop. That probably didn't help though, sorry.
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I have puma 60/40s and the part on the top of the photo looks a bit like the part that attaches to the sloped portion of the wheel well that the seat rests on. There would be 2 of these. It looks too big though.
The other part is new to me.
You should be able find instructions on line or maybe even a video.
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Bottom part is AQR710290, the reinforcement bracket for the rear floor latch striker assembly. These brackets attach under the rear cargo floor to the frame.

The other 2 pieces are not for the 60/40, they are for the 3rd row seat belts reinforcements EIO500060 & EIO500070 (the "L" brackets in wheel well to the frame) and KVX000020 (rear x-member spacers as mentioned by one ten).

The brackets that Reese mentioned (AFU710230) are not in your picture. They pop rivet to the wheel well and the rear of each seat rests on top. If you are not modifying the wheel wells with a cut out, then don't rivet these in until you position a spacer under the striker brackets and seat hinges. The work around will make for less reclined seating.
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Old April 12th, 2015, 01:04 AM
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The part with the tube doesn't fit with a roll cage. The tube part bolts to the rear crossmember in the same place as your under-tub section of the cage. When I installed a cage on my Puma110, I just cut this tube off from the plate. The plate will only fit if you have a puma-style tub with the stepped wheel well boxes. Let me find my thread with pix and you'll get an idea visually.
The first few pix in his thread are the mounting and modification of this part:
http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...all-41001.html
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I had 4 plates fabricated for the puma seat mounting points so that I could bolt into the same structure under the rear deck that the NAS seats bolted into. Let me know if you would like a couple of pictures.
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I had 4 plates fabricated for the puma seat mounting points so that I could bolt into the same structure under the rear deck that the NAS seats bolted into. Let me know if you would like a couple of pictures.

Are you running puma middle row seats without modifying your NAS tub?
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I couldn't rationalize modifying the NAS tub. A modification to cut a notch in the angle of the wheel well will allow the seat to set lower in back to improve the angle of the seat back. It's is acceptable without modification but it is pretty upright. I added a few washers to the front legs to get closer the the right angle.
I wanted the upgrade because I have kids that ride in the back and the stock NAS seats have a low back that are not as safe as the puma style.
I kept all the original seats if a future owner wants to take it back to stock.
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Can you post pics?
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There is a seat pic in my registry to show the seat angle. I will crawl under the truck to take a few more.
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Ruggedguide's video of the basic concept, aside from more robust under body supports like in the original post.

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Structure with new fab plate. Note the plate has a 90 at the top to accept the top bolts.
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Thanks. Looks like I'll go puma middle row instead of the exmoor high back.
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Thank you - this is really helpful. I got them installed, and just left all the parts off!

------ Follow up post added April 12th, 2015 01:26 PM ------

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Are you running puma middle row seats without modifying your NAS tub?
Yes, I didn't modify the tub. Ideally, I'd like to cut out a portion of the wheel well and fabricate a plate inset to pop rivet into place. I got them in and they are fine, but I had to put spacers under the front legs so that the seats would sit evenly.

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[QUOTE=Reese_D90;628065]I couldn't rationalize modifying the NAS tub. A modification to cut a notch in the angle of the wheel well will allow the seat to set lower in back to improve the angle of the seat back. It's is acceptable without modification but it is pretty upright. I added a few washers to the front legs to get closer the the right angle.
I wanted the upgrade because I have kids that ride in the back and the stock NAS seats have a low back that are not as safe as the puma style.
I kept all the original seats if a future owner wants to take it back to stock.[/QUOTE

that's exactly what I did - and why I did it. I have three young kids and the seats were too low, not to mention no shoulder strap in the middle seat. I'm pretty happy with them. I went with the grey vinyl, which should be awesome on an August afternoon in Austin!

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nice - that is a better angle than mine. I need to lower the back a little. thanks for all the comments - very helpful. I thought this would be a 3 hours - 8 beer job - it was much more....
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Done and happy
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Looks good.
I think every Land Rover job is a one case minimum.
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