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Old October 8th, 2014, 04:34 PM
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Puma dash conversion

I figured I would start a thread about installing the Puma dash in an older Defender. Lots of people ask for this, but it is not all that easy. In searching around there are a few places that have done it and some in the works.

We are making a kit that will place the R380 shifter and a diff lock linkage in the correct location solving one of the hurdles.
Engine and gearbox stay in the normal locations (V8, Tdi, whatever).
We have done it with automatics and that isn't as bad, but the 5 speed was an issue.

Safari HP is working on a box to make the Puma can-bus system work without the Puma ECU so that will make the dash work.

We will be selling the gearshift adapters in order to get back development costs.

So things are looking up for those who want to do this.

Image attached was from mock up. Finished pieces are going into the CNC machine now.
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Old October 8th, 2014, 04:58 PM
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Old October 8th, 2014, 05:07 PM
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Very interesting!

What is your timeline like? We've got a Puma-bodied 130 project enroute and both the linkage relocation and CAN-Bus trickery would be a fantastic timesaver.
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Old October 9th, 2014, 02:23 AM
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Heck, I'd buy one of them just for the stash. I can't see myself leaving Europe without a puma bulkhead and dash in my household goods.
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Old October 9th, 2014, 06:52 AM
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Old October 9th, 2014, 07:35 AM
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Old October 9th, 2014, 10:41 AM
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I got some messages about "why" does this need to be done. So here is a shot of the Puma interior with the stock shifters. Have a look at the distance between the front of the seat box and the dash. It is really small. The normal R380 shifter would come up inside the dash, so it has to be moved back otherwise the Puma dash install is impossible (unless you go automatic). Image of an automatic with the Puma dash we did attached as well.
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Old October 9th, 2014, 11:18 AM
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love the automatic with a puma dash… finally a defender my wife would actually drive.
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Old October 9th, 2014, 12:49 PM
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You can also use the disco r380 with the dash which pushes the gear sticks back far enough. That being said I would pick up this kit myself.
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Old October 9th, 2014, 12:53 PM
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smart bit of kit, one step closer to realizing the puma dash dream for the masses!
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Old October 9th, 2014, 12:57 PM
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You can also use the disco r380 with the dash which pushes the gear sticks back far enough. That being said I would pick up this kit myself.
No, we looked into that hoping to not have to make parts.
It doesn't work.
Disco unit is too far back. You'd have to cut the seat box and make a tunnel cover and it doesn't address the diff lock issues using the stock Puma parts.

We are going for something that bolts in and once done looks like it was supposed to be there.

Image attached of anfonee1's set up using the Disco gearbox. Absolutely nothing wrong with that, but just not what we are going for.
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Old October 9th, 2014, 12:59 PM
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It does work, I have it, pictured in my build thread
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It does work, I have it, pictured in my build thread
Cool. Glad you made it work. We couldn't to the level of finish we wanted while using as many stock off the shelf parts as possible and having it all look just like a Puma, but with a 5 speed V8 (or Tdi, or Td5).
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Old October 9th, 2014, 01:19 PM
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Sounded quite passive aggressive, I'm not trying to argue with you, I am grateful for the work you guys put into this and the wiring if it comes available.


The only other pieces of info I think is fair for people to know is that they would need a puma bulkhead and blower motor for this conversion.
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Old October 9th, 2014, 01:23 PM
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Sounded quite passive aggressive, I'm not trying to argue with you, I am grateful for the work you guys put into this and the wiring if it comes available.


The only other pieces of info I think is fair for people to know is that they would need a puma bulkhead and blower motor for this conversion.
Not aggressive. I'm just busy and don't have time to type fluff so it comes off wicked direct.

Oh yes, people will need a ton more parts to do the conversion. Lots and lots of them, and then they get to have fun with wiring.
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I saw this done by a south african guy to get around the gear shifter issue on an older truck.

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That just looks odd.
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That just looks hideous.

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Gotta love that shift pattern though. You can hit your knuckles AND your wrist while shifting, how fun
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