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Old February 3rd, 2008, 04:52 PM
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Puddle on drivers side floor

How come when it rains I get a puddle on the driver's side floor?
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 05:22 PM
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Could be many things...

Bulkhead vents seals...(look there first)
Doortop seals...
Windshield seal...

Good luck...now it is time for beer and football!
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 05:24 PM
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Here are a few things you can check. Make sure your vents closed all the way. Which top do you have? Does it seal pretty well at the doors?

On a nice sunny day, try and replicate it with a hose.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 05:46 PM
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A very common cause is kinked door seals where the seal follows the contour of the body on the A-pillar. If the weatherstripping is kinked where it follows the roundover, then water gets through. You have to pull the stripping tight before putting it over the flange.

But it could be all those other reasons too. I suggest you read the Water Ingress Handbook.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 05:51 PM
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Water Ingress Handbook.
Am I the only one that thinks this is hilarious?
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 05:59 PM
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Hell, Jim keep posting this stuff... I am saving all the .pdf's I can.

Nathaniel, it is funny that there is a manual for leaks though...
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Welcome to Defender 90 ownership! I never have been able to determine where it comes from and on both sides!
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 06:24 PM
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Am I the only one that thinks this is hilarious?
Not at all. Its not only funny that there exists such a publication, but also that I think that its perfectly OK.
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Old February 3rd, 2008, 07:21 PM
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Well I have a badger with gutter kit so I know it isn't coming from the door seal also it was leaking on the driver's side floor when I had a bestop as well.

I do however also have a problem where I am getting a puddle on top of the passenger side wheel well. It seems the water is coming in along the external rollcage opening for the top and rolling along the rear cage and dripping into a puddle on the rear cargo matt It is driving me nuts.

I have only had the badger on a week so I am not sure what the issue is. Once the sun is out I may take it off and realign it.
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How come when it rains I get a puddle on the driver's side floor?
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Old February 4th, 2008, 07:33 PM
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Barry,
Lookng inside - do you see any water on the inside of the window, on the door, on the dash etc. Where inside is the puddle, near the pedals or back by the seat.? Is it possible to track the water back upward? As the rain is off the forecast for a few weeks, try the garden hose to actually see it. I have a '94 without the gutter so I know exactly which 1/2 inch gap the water flows in through.

Oh, and as to the manual - understandable that it exists but Damn, that is hilarious. Guess I will try the putty solution.
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Old February 4th, 2008, 07:39 PM
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There is also the AC(condensate?) drain hose that can get kicked off by passengers if you have AC. That will cause a puddle on the pass side floor(I know he said when it rains but who knows). Does the AC run when in defrost mode like newer cars? Just throwing it out there.
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The AC does not run in defrost mode, in fact the systems do not share the same air.

I'm talking about a 90 of course, god knows how that old NAS 110 AC system "works."
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Old February 4th, 2008, 11:49 PM
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Thanks for the advice. I don't have AC. The puddle forms closer to the pedals. Still trying to figure out what is going on with the puddle on the rear wheel well
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Old February 6th, 2008, 04:34 PM
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Have you had your clutch pedal box out before?? when I redid my clutch master cylinder, I didn't re seal between the box and the bulkhead and since then I get water in.. Puddle in my truck forms right under the clutch... leaks in down the pedal. I always assumed it was this missing seal..


I do notice my vents not really sealing anymore (air comes in all the time) so maybe thats the cluprit??

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I did have my master replaced. Not sure if the shop resealed or not. I am going to hit the car with a hose this weekend
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Old February 6th, 2008, 06:14 PM
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For those who haven't tried them, the vent seals made for Series III models work very well. RDS offers them. I once had significant water in both wells after rain. Now it only comes in through the door on the driver side (and in various locations across the back). The sloshing in the front is gone though.
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I have the same problem with water running down the clutch pedal and pooling up. I would agree that, that is a real possible option.

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There is also the AC(condensate?) drain hose that can get kicked off by passengers if you have AC. That will cause a puddle on the pass side floor(I know he said when it rains but who knows). Does the AC run when in defrost mode like newer cars? Just throwing it out there.
Also in response to that i have that same problem with AC condensation pooling up, how do you address that issue. AKA where is this tube located to fix it.
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