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Old September 12th, 2012, 10:43 PM
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Price for this NAS110?

A friend has offered to sell me his 1993 NAS 110 (#71/500). It just dropped the t-case and is sitting at the shop.

I was able to get to it today and take 63 photos which you can find HERE.

I need an objective opinion to help determine a fair price for him and for me.

It has rust, dings, dents, repainted doors, needs tires, a headliner, shocks, ignition, the AC is dead, but it runs pretty well despite having 130,000 hard miles.

The manual tranny was swapped for an automatic from a '97 Disco or Defender.

The rear bench seat is out of the truck but goes with the deal.

My biggest concern is the fact that the interior was rhino-lined.

Any opinions are welcome and appreciated. I'm not a wealthy guy like many of you so I'd be getting some major repairs done with someone like ECR and then doing what I can out of my garage, as I am able to afford it.

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Old September 12th, 2012, 10:49 PM
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A) why take it ECR? If you weren't rich...you'll be even much less so after that trip!
B) ask the seller / friend to come up with a price and start there.
C) buy it!
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I confess, I am a pain in the ass when it comes to restoration. I want perfection. I'll do much of the work myself but there are some big things I am just ill-equipped to manage.

1st things 1st... I may not be able to afford it. Any opinion on value?
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Old September 12th, 2012, 10:58 PM
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My biggest concern is the fact that the interior was rhino-lined.

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Why is that your biggest concern?
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Old September 12th, 2012, 11:06 PM
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18 to 20K?
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Why is that your biggest concern?
Because I don't know how hard it will be to remove and I don't know what I'll find when I do.


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Uh, you know its a Land Rover right?

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18 to 20K?
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So you know that build quality from the factory was shit, so silk purs/sows ear sort of thing.

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All things are relative. Polish that turd to look as good as it did when they crapped it out the back door and I'd be pleased as punch.
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Old September 12th, 2012, 11:35 PM
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Clear title no accidents it is worth $40k plus.

------ Follow up post added September 12th, 2012 11:37 PM ------

I should add if you drop it off at ecr, you are looking at another 40k min to make it nice.
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I only say that based on the photos and what I've seen out there. Alot of research needs to be applied, it's an investment in Time and Money as you know. I only have 2 years at this so...
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I only say that based on the photos and what I've seen out there. Alot of research needs to be applied, it's an investment in Time and Money as you know. I only have 2 years at this so...
No worries. I've had my D90 for about 6 and I'm no more prepared. Maybe it's just the mystique of the 110. Maybe it's the critical eye of our membership. Either way, this one scares me a little.

Right now I'm just happy to have a resource like D-90.com!
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Did you mention the miles?
If you are a perfectionist then here is the list I see:
New paint and powdercoat. If done right, you will take it apart to paint and the rhino lining can be blasted out.
New rear X member.
Looks to have an auto conversion with 97 console but needs work.
New seats and carpet, sound mat and headliner.
Depending on mechanical,..... shocks, springs, brakes, plugs, wires, exhaust, y-pipe, headers, tires, etc, etc, etc.. maybe a conversion.
$35k if you are handy and do or coordinated the work. $60k+ if you send to ECR. At least.
Value - I think $35 to $45k depending on the milage. If the chassis or bulkhead is bad, walk. Or go real low.
I bought mine in better shape for $42k a year ago and I am ass deep in the resto.
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My biggest concern is the fact that the interior was rhino-lined.
Not just rhino lined, but rhino lined in situ! Good luck getting the seatbox and front floor plates out when you need to. There are much better trucks available for reasonable money. The NAS110s are way over rated, IMO.
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Old September 13th, 2012, 05:01 AM
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It's obviously had some rust repair in the past, plus some to do and has some non rust bodywork to do to.

LT230 are easy to pick up cheap. Pretty easy to pull and replace. So for short money you have a runner.
Photo the underside of the doors. Frames rusty? Hard to be perfectionist about our evaluation of this vehicle.
Take it to ECR and I bet you'll get a frame up resto, new chassis drivetrain, BH full respray on white paint new interior esp. if you decide to get rid of rhino new carpets seats headliner etc. easy $70k plus investment on top of your purchase price.
As is private purchase it's a $22-25k. Trade 40% less. After ECR work whatever the fickle market will bear.
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Tops $20-25k with the work that needs to be done. Where folks come up with a $40k+ value as it sits is beyond my comprehension. Even going north to $30k seems out of the question. You'll easily put $20-30k plus into it (plus your time).
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It looks like it's maybe been in an accident in the past, and the rear tub has been re-riveted in at some point.

I like that rhinolining. He should trade me his 110 for my 90. I can get that thing spruced up.
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Did you mention the miles?
If you are a perfectionist then here is the list I see:
New paint and powdercoat. If done right, you will take it apart to paint and the rhino lining can be blasted out.
New rear X member.
Looks to have an auto conversion with 97 console but needs work.
New seats and carpet, sound mat and headliner.
Depending on mechanical,..... shocks, springs, brakes, plugs, wires, exhaust, y-pipe, headers, tires, etc, etc, etc.. maybe a conversion.
$35k if you are handy and do or coordinated the work. $60k+ if you send to ECR. At least.
Value - I think $35 to $45k depending on the milage. If the chassis or bulkhead is bad, walk. Or go real low.
I bought mine in better shape for $42k a year ago and I am ass deep in the resto.
Reese, looks good! Are you doing this yourself?
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It looks like it's maybe been in an accident in the past, and the rear tub has been re-riveted in at some point.
Not sure if you are talking about those at the B pillar by the back door but those rivots never came painted from the factory.
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Did you mention the miles?
If you are a perfectionist then here is the list I see:
New paint and powdercoat. If done right, you will take it apart to paint and the rhino lining can be blasted out.
New rear X member.
Looks to have an auto conversion with 97 console but needs work.
New seats and carpet, sound mat and headliner.
Depending on mechanical,..... shocks, springs, brakes, plugs, wires, exhaust, y-pipe, headers, tires, etc, etc, etc.. maybe a conversion.
$35k if you are handy and do or coordinated the work. $60k+ if you send to ECR. At least.
Value - I think $35 to $45k depending on the milage. If the chassis or bulkhead is bad, walk. Or go real low.
I bought mine in better shape for $42k a year ago and I am ass deep in the resto.

When that 110 is done you wont be able to stop smiling!

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Tops $20-25k with the work that needs to be done. Where folks come up with a $40k+ value as it sits is beyond my comprehension. Even going north to $30k seems out of the question. You'll easily put $20-30k plus into it (plus your time).
Dont listen to Jason- he gets commision on his referals!...lol Just kidding...20K man, and only because you cant see the bottom of that rhino lined rabbit hole!
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Reese, looks good! Are you doing this yourself?
Doing all that I can. Most of the mechanical is done. North Texas Rovers did the hard stuff. I replaced most everything listed above including fuel related items like tank and pump etc.

I decided to get a pro to do the painting. Nothing like a paint booth and good prep.

My biggest concern is keeping it cool in the Dallas heat. After all the Dynolining, we will see if it still needs an aux rear a/c. I bet it will. I did not change out the dash so Im living with the original air.

The point is if you buy a truck that hasnt seen the love in a while it can get expensive. Most can be done over time, but things like body and paint when you decide to do it, its all in.
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