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Old March 2nd, 2011, 01:41 PM
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Power Steering hose - major pain...

My 'box to reservoir' hose on my d-90 was leaking from the rubber hose section. It look like the hose was replace once before as the rubber part was hose clamped to the rigid part.

Anyway, I figured I might as well replace them all. The genuine replacement parts arrived and I'm a bit concerned with the fitment. There seems to be a bit too much hose twist where the rubber section meets the rigid section that screws into the top of the steering box. I'm afraid that the the twisting of the hose is going to restrict fluid flow.

The crimp fittings (between the metal and rubber hose sections) don't swivel so I don't know what to do. It's almost as if the needs to rotate 45 degrees. so that it does not twist too much.

Does anyone have any ideas?
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 02:26 PM
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Where did you buy the parts? I'd return the line and ask for a replacement. Alternately, take the new hose to local shop that does hydraulic lines and have them put a new piece of hose on in the correct position.
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 02:37 PM
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Before you disconnect anything try to match up what you bought and what is there. They kinda move around when you install them, and they can be tweeked a little during installation, but that should give you a starting place to see if they are incorrect hoses.
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 02:39 PM
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The part came from Atlantic British. It was genuine and sealed. Not sure what's going on...
Such a pain to have to take it all out again...nothing is easy on these things!

------ Follow up post added March 2nd, 2011 03:08 PM ------

I tried matching up the old part to the new one- the old one is pretty mangled from the removal but the hose section is a bit more forgiving to twists.

I might just wait to see if it loosens up after the fluid starts flowing.

Does anyone jaw an accurate picture showing how the hoses are routed?
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 03:41 PM
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see the attached picture. This is the hose I have (P/N qeh102380). As you can see, the hard fitting end has a 90 degree up turn.

When mounting this hose, the rubber hose section prior to the hard fitting rises up from the frame. The 90 degree part then needs to be turned down int the steering box. As you can see from the pic, it turns up.

I'm starting to think I might have this router incorrectly?

So frustrating...a one hour job is an all day event!
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 04:06 PM
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The stock hoses really, really, suck. This is not an uncommon experience.
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 04:15 PM
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Trust me I know. But I have an aftermarket hose as well....it's even worse. almost totally rigid and impossible to fit.

If someone could post a picture of the top of the steering box...I just want to see how the hoses are router, perhaps that would be enough for me to figure this out.
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Old March 2nd, 2011, 05:28 PM
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Here's a pic of how I have the hose currently routed. I don't see any other way of doing it that untwists the hose.
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The original power steering hoses are typical factory type. They are made by a giant machine by the thousands in order to keep costs low. They get the job done and that's about all you can say about them. If you don't mind a small investment then I recommend that you upgrade to the type with braided stainless sleeving and AN type fittings. These are available from Jegs, Summit, etc and go by trade names such as Earl's, Aeroquip and by house brand. Most speed shops can make you whatever you need as it requires both some experience with the fittings as well as some special tools to assemble them. The power steering fittings on the Rover box are standard inverted flare and you can certainly get the custom hoses done up to fit. Swivel ends can be incorporated to help with installation. Hoses won't collapse or kink and withstand heat, cold, blah blah blah. Conquer!
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That's good idea...so, if someone want to make me a nice custom set for my 1994 NAS d-90, at this point, I'd be happy to pay your asking price as I just want to be done with this!
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I see what you are fighting. I can try to take some pictures for you tomorrow. Looks like you could use some extra length there.
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Old March 3rd, 2011, 07:16 AM
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Thanks Jim. The last thing I want to do it blow the steering box because of a lack of fluid which is why I am concerned about the hose twist.
In hindsight, I should have just replaced the leaking rubber section on the original line and this would have been a non-issue...another rover lesson learner the hard way!
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Tim,

Did you ever find a solution to this? I ran into the same issue and ever since i replaced my lines my pump gets loud when it gets hot.
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Back when I had a "gasser" 90, I moved the whole fluid reservoir straight up from the steering box on the drivers fender edge. Cut out all that hose & pipe weirdness. Use a tube cutter and save the metal ends on the pump & buy some good hose &4 clamps & you're done
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That might help my flow. The pump wasn't this loud until i changed the lines. It weird that my pump is quieter when i turn the wheel than when its stationary. No problems with turning the wheels either. Sounds like there is air in it, even though its been bled quite a few times. And it only does it when its hot.
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I never came up with a very elegant solution so after hours of trying to get it right, I just twisted the metal section a quarter turn which let the hoses open up a bit. It's not perfect but I have not had a problem since.

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Did you ever find a solution to this? I ran into the same issue and ever since i replaced my lines my pump gets loud when it gets hot.
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