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Old March 25th, 2007, 01:42 PM
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Does anyone have pics of there POE lift gate struts, how they attach and where they mount? Also the retaining lip that holds the gate closed when the tailgate is shut? I think there is a gasket there too.....

Not sure if these are available or there is something that I could use to get the same effect... Ideas?
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Old March 25th, 2007, 02:47 PM
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JimC does. Didn't he post a picture on conversion recently? Send him an email or PM.
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Old March 25th, 2007, 04:20 PM
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Oops, I took these a while back and meant to post them.

The brackets are stainless stuff from McMaster.

One thing that worked out was that the triangular shape of the lower brackets made a perfect surface for the locking rods to grip. When the gate is closed, you turn the handle and the pegs extend out and engage the angled side. It worked out to be just right to squeeze the seal and hold the gate in the right position when closed. The seal is compressed enough that nothing rattles.
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Old March 25th, 2007, 05:30 PM
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Randy, I'm free next weekend. I can stop up and show you my POE top.
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Old March 25th, 2007, 06:45 PM
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Cool. THanks Jim. any part #'s did you get all that stuff from MCmaster? Also, what about a pic of how it seals to the tailgate? What method r u using?
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Old March 25th, 2007, 07:15 PM
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Randy- are you using the lift gate in normal series configuration? i.e where a drop-down tailgate closes first and then the lift gate closes second? Also, what came on your lift gate? Was it stripped? The stock set up is a strip that rivets to the outside bottom edge, and a seal retained by a metal strip that rivets to the inside bottom edge of the lift gate.

If you want the stock series parts you can have them cheap (I'll have to have my wife hunt around for them, they're back at home). I couldnt use them since the NAS tailgate must be closed after the lift gate because of the tire carrier and brake light bar. I bought a piece of LR weatherstripping that looked like it would work, I'd have to check the part number if you wanted that.

I also have the series prop rods you were asking George about if you want them so you dont have to use gas struts. I looked at both options and went with the gas struts - much easier.

The gas struts are 2x 9416K2 in the 30lb strength
I used 4x 9416K86 M6 nylon ball socket fittings
2x 9512K12 304 stainless ball brackets
and 1x each (left and right) 9512K16 and 9512K17

Note that each of the parts are available in a variety of materials. You can even get 100% marine grade stainless gas struts for 75 bucks each. I went the economical route except for the brackets which are much nicer in stainless. The nylon ball joint sockets cost like 1/8 of the stainless and I figure will resist rust at least as well
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Let me know on the seal parts.. Mine came stripped with nothing on it. I also like the NAS setup with the strip inside.. Did you make yours yourself?

As for the prop rod or struts, I kind of like the gas strut setup better..
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Old March 25th, 2007, 08:37 PM
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I used a 332564 for the seal. It think its a series rear door seal of some kind. Got it from George.
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Do you have any pics of your seal? If so, post them up. Get mem a price on those retainers you have too..

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http://www.roversdownsouth.com/specials.htm

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Randy, I'm free next weekend. I can stop up and show you my POE top.

Ok. sounds good
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Old March 26th, 2007, 08:33 PM
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Lets get a variety of pix up in this thread. I'll take pix of mine and post them. If you guys can get take pix of the POE and post them. It sounds like Randy wants to build a genuine series set up. Then maybe LenB can post some pix of his custom arrangement. It will be good for future generations of top builders...
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I ordered the strut parts as posted by Jim C.... Now we just need a pic of a POE lower gate seal and retainer as Jim said above.. Anyone?
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lift gate seal

My seal is simple and effective - it is made with a thin metal retainer - a strip of 1/2" wide 1/8" thick annodized aluminum - from the hardware store and a piece of garage door bottom seal -(dense foam strip with abrasion resistance) I chose that seal because it is chemically engineered to withstand UV radiation. Mine has worked quite well over the past few years. I will post some picks of it for you this evening. It is very simple to attach - I used the series of holes that are already in bottom of the lift gate to attachethe unit with small SS machine screws.
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here are some pics of my lift gate bottom seal

I have never had any real serious water leakage into the truck from this seal. It is pretty simple - and made from items at the hardware store.
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Len, I like your Idea... WHere did you get that locking mechanism?
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What are the parts for the latching mechanism for the swing out tailgate and flip-up window?

Also can anyone measure the height from the bottom of the door frame (inside) to the top of the swing out lower door section? Would like to figure out if my mantec would still work.
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Dave - not sure I totally understand what dimension you want- the tailgate come up to the top of the cappings on the rear tub.

pages 57 and 58 of the RN catalog depict these assemblies perfectly, and most of the parts (I didnt check them all) seem to be in stock. The NAS tailgate latches just like a soft top passenger door (same pieces and everything) and the liftgate has a t-handle that actuates 2 extending lock rods.

George also had all those parts when I was there last, to include complete lift gate set ups. Some of the parts took a swim, so he might give you a good price for buying all the stuff at once.
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