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Old July 24th, 2013, 10:40 AM
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If yours are anything like mine were, your door studs are rusted and therefore swollen and fused to the plastic sleeves they sit in. You will need to use some force to get them out but best if you have another person. I sprayed the studs with PB blaster over a few days and we both pried each side up a little at a time with pry bars. Having the extra person made all the difference. When you get them off, cut off that plastic sleeve. They're unnecessary IMO if you have the quick release nuts (http://www.roverparts.com/Parts/9788.cfm).
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Old July 24th, 2013, 05:17 PM
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Did you damage the metal on your doors with the prybar method?
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Old July 24th, 2013, 05:39 PM
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The top of the doors got a little scratched but if you put a thin piece of plastic sheathing in between the door top and the pry bar you should be ok.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 01:34 PM
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As they saying goes.... You want the good news, or the bad news? Good: Got it off with a combo of shims, PB blaster and incessant banging. Bad: Broke one if the glass windows (hammer). Really an amazing explosion of glass - a fitting metaphor for this project. On to the second door. Feel like I am prepping for another marathon here. Pics attached.

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Old July 25th, 2013, 01:41 PM
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Sorry Scott, that sucks...
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Old July 25th, 2013, 01:43 PM
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On my 97 I hit the inside upper corners of the window frame with a rubber mallet till it broke free. I was careful not to hit to hard and bend the frame.

Standard Disclaimer - I am a human Pez dispenser of bad advice. If you break your stuff I am in no way responsible but I will take all the credit if it turns out ok.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 01:52 PM
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Suppose you could have sold them as those mythical sliding window one piece doors....
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Old July 25th, 2013, 01:55 PM
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Do not hammer the studs!

Did you try the 3ft pry bar?

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Suppose you could have sold them as those mythical sliding window one piece doors....
Found on canadian SII 88" station wagon models.

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Old July 25th, 2013, 01:56 PM
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Sorry Scott, that sucks...
It's ok. I don't plan on putting back on anytime soon. Collateral damage!!

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[QUOTE="evilfij;455098"]Do not hammer the studs!

Did you try the 3ft pry bar?

No. Ripped out the rubber gasket and hammered in some shims. That really got her started. Once that started working I worked it apart with a 3 foot 1x3 (wood scrap).
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Old July 25th, 2013, 02:02 PM
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On the bright side, this is an EXCELLENT time to do the Garrison Outfitters window felt upgrade...

I'm a little disappointed to see you were doing this all out of LI - I was really hoping you were doing this on the side of the road in the West Village.
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Good one. I needed a laugh there. Believe me,if i was in the WV you would've heard me!!
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Sorry to see that.

The same shit happened to me with the Series.
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Old July 25th, 2013, 02:18 PM
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At least you have walked away from it for the night. Best to sleep on it and go back to it again with a clear head.
Ps. For all of you about to remove your door tops. This was the best advice I got - and should've heeded again today right before smashing the window. If you get frustrated - walk away for a bit!
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I was thinking of taking my 1994 NAS door tops off for the rest of the summer but admit after reading this thread from beginning to end I am having major second thoughts. I successfully took off both nuts on the drivers side without any issue but I was unable to get any movement on the window top so I left it at that. I dread the idea of having at it in any way,shape or form as others have. Seems like this is almost an impossible feat?

One question what size are the nuts that go on the bolts? I think I lost the two I was able to take off.
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Use some peppermint oil to penetrate the nut and bolt unit.
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I had a seized stud on my IIA window top earlier this summer……..it was stuck in the sleeve in the lower part of the door. I mean really stuck……it's still there actually, I have not drilled it out. I finally used a hacksaw to cut through the stud, but not before I hit the bottom of them with a hammer hoping to free it.

Stupidest thing I have probably ever done to my truck.

I missed and smashed a inside of the door skin and now have a nice lump on the outside of the door. I almost cried…………my wife was a witness to it. I think my neighbors heard me from 4 blocks away. I just hope their kids ears were covered because the words that came out of my mouth were not for the faint of heart. I am pissed just typing this, seriously, the stupidest thing I have ever done.

DO NOT USE A HAMMER
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I did that to a set of doors one time, fortunately I wasn't trying to keep them. Either way it sux royally.

Oftentimes the tops are only stuck because the rubber gasket has "welded" itself to the door capping. Liberal soap, water, and thin metal implements can be used to free it.

In related news I just spent some quality time last night drilling an old broken stud out of a old door top.
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