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Old February 22nd, 2016, 09:21 PM
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Paint a galvanized chassis?

I have a Marsland chassis on order. I thought it was an aesthetic thing to paint a galvanized chassis, until I read on Marsland's website that you should if it's going to see a lot of salt.
My truck lives in the northeast, and sees the beach often.
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 09:31 PM
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 09:39 PM
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 09:43 PM
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I would wax oil everything. My friend with a galv frame drives on the beach and he didn't treat his truck. Frame is ok (dull) but everything else has rusted.
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Old February 22nd, 2016, 09:49 PM
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Over the long haul you'll probably find it hard to get the paint to stick anyways....

A buddy's 110 was in my driveway last week with a galvy rear cross member and the paint was peeling off of it and he properly prepped it, etched it, etc.

The salt will melt everything else around it before you would have to worry about the frame. I saw that happen to another friends beach going 109 with a galvy frame.

yea I wouldn't touch it

Waxoyl everything around the frame and use anti seize whenever possible
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It can't have any white flash on it; no corrosion at all! If it does you will want to wire brush it (stainless wire) until it's shiny. Also you'll find places where globs have gummed things up. You'll clean that up with your mapp torch and air gun. Once you get it prepped then you do a solvent wipe down with xylene. Then you put minimum two coats two part epoxy primer followed by two coats two part polyurethane such as Interlux Perfection. I used a flattening agent to make a satin finish. Looks great. No lifting or chipping yet!!!
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I'd waxoyl it because I have access to the stuff, and I'm not a fan of the "roverchrome". IMO galvanized rear xmembers look goofy, and I've seen an "almost" gone galvanized chassis(IIRC 12 years old in the NE). You're investing a lot of money in the vehicle, why not the extra couple hundred?


Black chassis look better.
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Clean it with PPG DX579 Metal Cleaner then prep with DX520 Metal Conditioner. Epoxy prime, then paint.

http://us.ppgrefinish.com/getmedia/9...tment_2-13.pdf

"T Wash" isn't available on this side of the atlantic as far as I know.

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Why not rhino line it? No way that stuff will lift.
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My rock sliders are galvanized and was rhino lined but is pulling off where I step on getting in and out.
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My rock sliders are galvanized and was rhino lined but is pulling off where I step on getting in and out.
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Read this:

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If you have it galvanized. You can have it phosphate washed/dipped and then paint within 48 hours with right prep. After that, galv does as it should and oxidizes. At that point you can do your best, wash it, even light sand and then acid etch prime it, but it will peel. Been to all these, done that, but still no rust. I don't care for galv bumper, and mine is (by choice) and I continually paint it As it takes a lot of abuse. At least flakes with road/salt,rocks...

We paint light poles (I do architectural lighting) so I am 100% sure you can successfully paint galv. For us, though, you need an immediate acid bath and then paint witching a couple days or you will always fight it not sticking. Not saying it can't be done, but not easy at all.

And shit-- I just re read and poor writing but on phone-- I'll polish this turd tomorrow.
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Why not rhino line it? No way that stuff will lift.
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Used t-Wash, etch primer and then an Eastwood chassis topcoat in Satin Black
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A while back I looked into painting galvy metal and came to a conclusion that denatured alcohol would be the prep necessary. But now when comparing the MSDS sheets for that and Mordant solution, I'm not so sure.

But I can't believe that the UK can have a prep solution that is available in their version of Home Despot and the US cannot.



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I've tried painting the thing 8 ways from Wednesday and it ends up chipping off. Make your peace with either staying with the crappy matchbox toy car look, or repainting every other year. Rhino linner, lizard skin, both ended up chipping off.
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I'd waxoyl it because I have access to the stuff, and I'm not a fan of the "roverchrome". IMO galvanized rear xmembers look goofy, and I've seen an "almost" gone galvanized chassis(IIRC 12 years old in the NE). You're investing a lot of money in the vehicle, why not the extra couple hundred?


Black chassis look better.

Agreed

And I'm glad you said this; I can't remember which event but I saw somebody's 90 with a galvy frame....rotting away.

If I were in the northeast, I'd galvanize and bedliner and waxoyl----belt and suspenders approach!



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In my opinion, extra protection never hurts. Like others have suggested, waxoil. I don't have a galvi chassis, but I've always used semigloss black paint. Flat paints will retain moisture. When asked what paint I use, I usually reply with "often"
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