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Old October 3rd, 2014, 12:25 PM
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Overheating...trying to head to MAR...help

Where does the fan clutch get its power from? I can stop the fan with my hand right now at high temp.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 12:28 PM
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Roll up a magazine or newspaper to stop the fan. If you could stop it with your hand it's definitely perished....but don't stick your hand in there to find out!
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 12:33 PM
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How do I determine if it's the actual fan clutch...or if it's the power to the fan clutch? Do you know where the power is coming from?
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 12:35 PM
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The fan clutch does not have any power. It is actuated by temperature.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 12:39 PM
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A trail side bodge job to get the fan clutch to lock up when it has decided to freewheel is to sink a few screws into it to manually lock it up to get you where you need to go.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 12:43 PM
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So it's definitely bad if I can stop it as easily as I can. Does anyone know the part # OR know of a compatible part I can use at least for the weekend? All the local shops don't even have a part listing...waiting to hear back from Land Rover Roanoke.

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Old October 3rd, 2014, 12:56 PM
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Hayden 2991 uses stock bolts, heavier duty fan but works fine albeit a bit louder..
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 01:14 PM
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Jake...I think the Hayden maybe the route I go. Right now it's either overnight one from AB or I can get the Hayden at 7am at local store. Thanks
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Someone at MAR should have one call Will Tillery if there is a range rover classic (v-belt) that fan is compatible with your wwater pump.

your fan is driven by the water pumpit
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 01:29 PM
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I can get the Hayden at autozone this pm...I'm staying optimistic that it'll bolt up ok tonight and still be able to attend MAR tomorrow.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 01:40 PM
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The good thing about the hayden is that it uses the stock mounting hardware vs some of the imperial fans which work as well but require you use larger bolts and drill out the fan mounting points. If you are looking to get there today just sink a few screws in the back side of the fan clutch and it will lock it up. As said before it will take a little more time to heat up as the fan will be locked and always on but other than that will work fine.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 01:54 PM
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Are your hoses pressurizing?

If the radiator cap doesn't seal properly then the system won't cool the engine effectively. There has been a faulty batch of caps doing the rounds. You should be able to get a 15psi cap in autozone.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 01:56 PM
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Take off the hood and put it in the back of the truck or on the roof. That helps keep temps down. :-)
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Temporary solution.
If you have AC, turn AC on but disconnect wire to the AC compressor at the compressor.
This will turn on the elec. fan in the front of the radiator.
Unplugging the compressor will reduce the load on the engine.
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Hoses are pressurizing. Jake...only thing I just thought of is a 95 water pump is different than the 97...and some of the discos. Hope the Hayden still bolts up?
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Drive it to the MAR - Will Tillery (ROVAWORKS) is here and has any part you need back in Roanoke.
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Hoses are pressurizing. Jake...only thing I just thought of is a 95 water pump is different than the 97...and some of the discos. Hope the Hayden still bolts up?
Personally, I'd just pull the clutch and pin it with a few screws and motor on down to MAR.. If Tillery is close then he'll have whatever bit or bob you may need.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 02:36 PM
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It's not hot enough today to even need a fan.

Edit: Tillery said pull the fuse for the A/C and just run the front fans.

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Why do you think you are overheating and under what circumstances?

The fan only locks up when the temp starts to rise. Generally they can be stopped easily about 95% of the time. When they do lock up you can hear the difference.

If the fan has failed it may just be masking another issue ... For example is the radiator hot at the bottom? They can sediment up and have poor flow.

When you do get to mar you way want to do some more investigations.
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Why do you think you are overheating and under what circumstances?

The fan only locks up when the temp starts to rise. Generally they can be stopped easily about 95% of the time. When they do lock up you can hear the difference.

If the fan has failed it may just be masking another issue ... For example is the radiator hot at the bottom? They can sediment up and have poor flow.

When you do get to mar you way want to do some more investigations.
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