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Old April 7th, 2009, 10:42 PM
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Okay I don't need help...Yet..

Look like something I could get into trouble with?
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Old April 7th, 2009, 10:50 PM
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Yah, man. Get testing. You cannot have too much HP/Torque.
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Old April 8th, 2009, 12:10 AM
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Power, Power POWER!

I just want it to flow a little more and do it from the lowest RPM possible.

The Turbo is basically the same size but is a variable vane type. I'm excited to try and get something going with it..
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Old April 8th, 2009, 01:59 AM
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Oh, I'm looking forward to this!
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Old April 8th, 2009, 08:23 AM
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One of the spacers goes to the downpipe on the manifold, where do the other 2 go? If it were 4 of them I'd think the block side of the manifold but you only show 2.
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Old April 8th, 2009, 08:40 AM
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I think it is for a 4 cylinder and those are for a custom exhaust manifold.

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One of the spacers goes to the downpipe on the manifold, where do the other 2 go? If it were 4 of them I'd think the block side of the manifold but you only show 2.
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Old April 8th, 2009, 09:18 AM
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I think it is for a 4 cylinder and those are for a custom exhaust manifold.

Ding! Ding!Ding! We have a winner!
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Old April 8th, 2009, 09:19 AM
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Sorry, the thought of putting a turbo on a 4 cylinder didn't even cross my mind. LOL
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If I know Keith he won't let 'sleeping dogs' lie and will be make a set of adapters for a 5 cylinder too. Just has to find the time.
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Old April 8th, 2009, 01:44 PM
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TD5 is next. We'll see how simple it is and how inexpensive I can get these turbo's, A kit might be in the works.
I've 300TDI Defender in RHD and LHD and TD5 Defender in LHD and a D1 TD5 LHD to make sure of the fit. Might need to borrow a LHD D1 300TDI.. Anyone?
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Old April 8th, 2009, 01:45 PM
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Old April 8th, 2009, 02:51 PM
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2.8!?!?!?!

that's the turbo system I basically trying to build so it would be nice to have and gawk at.. Yo willing to send yours out? :o
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Old April 8th, 2009, 03:19 PM
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are you basically doing this?

http://www.allardturbosport.co.uk/pa..._discovery.asp

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because that would be sweet
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Old April 8th, 2009, 04:13 PM
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Yup. The goal would be to do it quite a bit cheaper if possible.
My turbo's are a off the shelf model for a Nissan Diesel, If I an do the oil lines and manifold for a reasonable price I could potentially beat the $1950 mark using a new turbo.

For the guys that like to rebuild things like turbos haveing an off the shelf model makes it easier to find a used one and rebuild it for half the price of new or just run it the way you got it like I plan to. This turbo has about 130K km on it and it smooth as silk no reason not to use it other than it's dirty, it actually has less endplay than the one in my truck now.

I'll save the $$ fir new injectors.


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are you basically doing this?

http://www.allardturbosport.co.uk/pa..._discovery.asp

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because that would be sweet
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Old April 8th, 2009, 04:34 PM
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That's excellent. What do you think of their claim that their system actually improves economy when you aren't flogging it for extra power? I'd be interested in such a system, but I'm unwilling to trade day-to-day economy for extra power which I only need sometimes.
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That is how varible veins work, right?
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Old April 8th, 2009, 04:46 PM
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My understanding was that variable vanes were mainly to cut down on turbo lag.
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TD5 is next. We'll see how simple it is and how inexpensive I can get these turbo's, A kit might be in the works.
I've 300TDI Defender in RHD and LHD and TD5 Defender in LHD and a D1 TD5 LHD to make sure of the fit. Might need to borrow a LHD D1 300TDI.. Anyone?
and a RHD 200tdi
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Old April 8th, 2009, 05:38 PM
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The idea is that:
It take a lot of speed in the turbo to build pressure in a large turbo but you get lots of flow at higher RPMs so you can pump in a lot of air. You get good high RPM power but turbo lag.
You can speed up a small turbo very quickly to reduce turbo lag but it can be small enough that you do not get the flow at high RPMs hence lower high rpm power.

If you make the turbo bigger and bigger as the RPMs increase you can eleiminate turbo lag and get good high rpm power. The Variable part of these turbos are the vanes on the exhaust side. the vanes are in such a way at low rpm that it take little force to get them going, open like a flower if you will as the boost increases to maximum the actuator starts to modulate the petals of the flower (I know this sounds gay Jimmy) pushing them closer together so the exhaust gases have reduced effect on them, still retaining boost though.
It's not really mor power but better power and reduction of turbo lag I'm after. If you want more power you tune the pump or make the engine bigger. It's possible that with a VGT the options for tuning the pump could be better and more economical since you're not flogging it trying to get it going during lag.
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Very Nice Keith. Can't wait...
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