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I have not had an oil line failure and am on original lines 36 23.53%
I have not had an oil line failure and I replaced my lines 83 54.25%
I had an oil line failure, but the truck did not catch fire 21 13.73%
I had an oil line failure and the truck caught fire and I put it out or it burned 13 8.50%
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 02:08 PM
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Caught fire = flames of some sort or was of such a nuture that one discharged a fire extinguisher in anticipation of flames.

Did not catch fire = without outside assistance such as the use of an extinguisher or shirt (see above), no flames or damage to the vehicle occured.

*not legal advice*
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 02:24 PM
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Roger. Vote cast

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Old May 22nd, 2009, 02:29 PM
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Shawn Palmer
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97 SW- 70,000 no issues-replaced lines
97 ST-72,000 seemed to have small hole or at least some leakage when I replaced

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Originally Posted by Raleigh D90
100K - Lines are original and in good condition. Will be replacing anyway in the next several weeks. Any recommendations for a decent fire extinguisher though and a mount?
I used quickfists for a good mount for a small fire extinguisher. Kinda what quickfists are made for.
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 03:19 PM
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About 4 years ago I was running through the gears, revving to 5K on shifts. First thing was black smoke pouring out of the AC vents, 2nd thing the engine died. I had blown the original equip high-pressure line wide open -- a long crack, like a gash, along the length of the line. I braked into a traffic-safe spot, pulled the hood release and jumped out. Emptied two on-board dry chem extinguishers putting out the flames. Engine had to be R&Rd, extensive repairs to both engine wiring harnesses, replaced HVAC box, and more. (This was the event that set up the install of the Rover/TVR 5L engine.) Running braided lines now of course.
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by evilfij
I use a bigish (6in in daimeter) one from wal-mart/home depot (ABC I think?) and it fits right behind the cubby box wedged up against the internal V bar part of the roll cage. No mount needed and easy to access. Cheap too at <$30

Nice spot.
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Old May 22nd, 2009, 04:25 PM
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I just did it the easy way and wrapped the fire shield tubing mentioned somewhere on another thread that I bought from Summit Racing on all my D's. A little messy but I guess I feel sorta safer.
A guy told me one time "don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat from around the corner"

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Old May 22nd, 2009, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by evilfij
I wonder who told you to do that?
You of course..
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 11:13 AM
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1997 100K
No fire Replaced when I got the truck At West Coast Rovers. 75K at the time
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 12:04 PM
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This thread got me thinking, I have seen several lines on the 14CUX/GEMS motors fail while engine was running, but on the later model motors seems they actually pop as the truck is shut down.

Anyhow, time to get all parts-geeked out... in mid 2002 LR finally came around and decided the oil cooler wasnt needed anymore and plugged the line ports in the timing cover, apparantly there was also some internal changes to the new cover to divert some oil flow. SO if you wanted to do away with the oil lines on a GEMS motor, you might be able to build a ERR6815 front cover with some modifications to mimic the internal passages of the LJR000220 cover...
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Old May 26th, 2009, 02:00 PM
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Mine blow at 135K while pulling into the driveway, no fire thankfully. I replaced them with stock lines and covered them with off-the-shelf heat wrap from a parts store.
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Old May 26th, 2009, 02:13 PM
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93 NAS 110 changed lines to SS AN fittings at 108K no fires!
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Old May 26th, 2009, 02:42 PM
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1994 D-90 blew at around 100k and caught fire enough to cost about 6k. Of course the work was done at the dealer so that meant about 600.00 in parts and the rest in labor.

I now have heat shielding wrapped around the lines and will be eventually upgrading them.

When it rolled off the tow truck into the dealer the manager there was like, man that is the 3rd defender I have seen with a fire in the same exact place. Awesome, thanks.

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Old May 26th, 2009, 04:08 PM
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1994, 107k, no fire yet. Have decided this is my next mod, though - scary pictures, simple solution.
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Old May 27th, 2009, 08:08 AM
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Put SS braided lines from Trailhead. 110,000 miles. No fires
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Old May 27th, 2009, 01:52 PM
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'95 ~85K, oil line failed almost 2 years ago leaving a very big white cloud of smoke on the highway. I moved to the left lane, pulled over in the emergency lane, picked up the fire extinguisher, ran outside, opened the hood and.... no fire! It's impressive how fast you can do things when you are ready (I did have the replacement lines in the garage.... Talk about taking useless risks....). I got very lucky since I just entered the highway and was looking many times in the rear view mirror to make my way to the left lane (it was a beautiful sunny/warm day).

I still filed a "claim" (?) with the DOT stating that this did not seem right and could endanger the life of others. But since my truck did not burn.....
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Old May 27th, 2009, 02:22 PM
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1994 D90 removed the lines and sandwich plate @ 36k. End of potential problem
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Old May 28th, 2009, 11:29 PM
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120K miles

Mine blew at about 120K on the highway at 70mph. Hell of a lot of white smoke and
a big oil trail to the shoulder. No fire but there was oil everywhere under the hood.
I always wondered if the fact I that I was running synthetic oil made any difference
about it not catching fire.
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Old May 30th, 2009, 08:32 PM
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1994 D-90 with 92,000 miles on the clock. I just replaced the lines with new stock lines. My old oil cooler lines looked great. I want to replace with SS and will do it in the future, but I just did new stock lines for the time being. Old lines did not burst or leak. No fire.

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Old June 2nd, 2009, 01:52 PM
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Man, I'm out of it.

Never heard of such a thing. But you bet I'm gonna get some ss lines soon! Gotta renew the radiator anyway.
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Old June 3rd, 2009, 12:40 PM
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I've been driving D90's for more than 11 years with no oil line failure.

Current Truck: 97SW

Bought in 2005

Current Miles: 80,000

Replaced oil line with SS (Trailhead 4x4) about six months ago

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