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Old February 18th, 2011, 05:58 PM
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oil in last cylinder/200tdi

I have a 200tdi. I just changed all my glow plugs and the last one had oil all over it. What would cause this, head or head gasket?

------ Follow up post added February 18th, 2011 07:08 PM ------

I guess it could be rings too, man this sucks!

------ Follow up post added February 18th, 2011 07:09 PM ------

How do you know what head gasket you need, I see no hole,one hole,two hole or three hole?
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Old February 18th, 2011, 07:22 PM
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Does it run well? An oily glow plug could mean a lot of things like maybe it's no good, perhaps you should get a compression test before getting too worried. Don't forget Diesels burn oil.
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Old February 18th, 2011, 07:55 PM
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It runs fine. There has been some smoke out the back just a tad when it is warmed up. But when it is cold it smokes like nothing else, until it warms up, then just a little smoke. I had a comp test done last year and the mechanic said it had great compression. So I am going to have it done again and now focus on the back cylinder. I just don't know much about this engine and I don't want to kill it.
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Old February 18th, 2011, 08:00 PM
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Mine smokes until it warms up in the cold. That's pretty normal. What does the smoke smell like? you would have to be burning a lot of oil to actually smell it in the exhaust as your diesel will burn crankcase oil quite nicely.
Did you use an ohm meter to check the oily glow plug?
Get the compression test for sure.
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Old February 18th, 2011, 08:00 PM
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I would not assume that it is a bad head gasket yet. The injector could need a good cleaning causing what you are seeing. Listen to Keith and do a compression test before you do anything. That is unless you can see that the head gasket is blown. You can take the injectors to a shop and have them cleaned and adjusted.
The head gasket size is determined by the piston protrusion. You may be able to see a marking in the head gasket around number three and four on the injector side. It is marked as you mentioned by 1, 2, 3, 0 holes. The thickness is in that order. You can search the Uk forums and they have some very good write ups on how to do a head gasket.
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Old February 19th, 2011, 11:27 AM
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Could just be that the glowplug is duff, and thus not burning the oil/fuel off of it... try metering it out with a voltmeter, see if it's open circuit.
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Old February 19th, 2011, 03:38 PM
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How Do I check the glow plug?
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How Do I check the glow plug?


If it's still in the cylinder head, get a voltmeter, set it to Ohms (some have a buzzer that buzzes when there's a complete closed circuit)

Stick one probe on the engine block, the other where the power cable goes (disconnect it from the rest of the loop first) and see if there's impedance.

If its open circuit, then it's dead.


Or, remove it from the cylinder head, and stick 12v onto it from a car battery. touch the end with your finger... if it hurts, then its working

Just kidding... don't touch it, or it WILL hurt... you'll see the tip of the plug glowing orange like ET's finger.
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I agree this is the best way to test.

"Or, remove it from the cylinder head, and stick 12v onto it from a car battery. touch the end with your finger... if it hurts, then its working

Just kidding... don't touch it, or it WILL hurt... you'll see the tip of the plug glowing orange like ET's finger. "
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You guys are so funny, that is how I checked my glow plugs. Of course I do not touch the end. Well that is unless it is not turning red......Have to see if it is trying.
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Old February 20th, 2011, 09:46 PM
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I found something similar when changing out my plugs and i am going through about 3/4 litre of oil per 36 gallon fill up. No signs of low compression and new injectors so i am currently blaming valve seals or turbo seal and will be changing the valve seals at some point this month.
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Old February 21st, 2011, 05:10 PM
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this is deja vu, i've had the same symptoms on my 300tdi last monday.
I noticed lots of smoke at idle but it seemed to be running fine, the smoke cleared under high rpm however i also noticed that the sump was weaping oil at the sump to block gasket & there was also an increase in crankcase pressure when the oil filler cap was removed.

I had rebuilt the engine 5K miles ago with an Elring head gasket, when i stripped the head I found the gasket had failed between cyl 4 and the pushrod hole.

on the rebuild I used a genuine parts MLS head gasket hopefully all ok now as i'm off to morroco with it in april

as been said get a pressure test & check for leaks at the gaskets and pressure in the rocker cover

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