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Old January 29th, 2014, 10:17 PM
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Oil Cooler Lines Trailhead or ECR

Is there a material difference between ECR's ROXX oil cooler lines and Trailhead 4x4's lines?
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Old January 29th, 2014, 10:27 PM
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Does ECR do mail order?

Most of us haven't run both, but I also don't know anyone whose oil cooler lines have burst after switching to stainless steel Trailhead 4x4 ones or ECR ones. Either will be far superior vs. stock.
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Old January 29th, 2014, 10:28 PM
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I had Trailhead install a set on my 95 NAS 90 and am very happy with the quality. I am not sure ECR sells a DIY kit?
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I've run both and the Trailhead ones are great and a lot less expensive. I'd do the Trailhead ones again in a heartbeat.

edit: actually, it didn't sound right and now that I thought about it, my first ones weren't ECR, but I think from Rovers North.
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Old January 29th, 2014, 10:46 PM
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We do not offer mail order oil cooler lines, sorry.

Buy the radiator adaptors from someone if you have that type of radiator (fixed fitting) and get the rest from JEGS or Summit. Its all the same stuff, the ECR ones or the Trailhead are both made from lengths of 8AN hose and various 8AN fittings. Neither is any "beefier" than the other. The only difference in the 2 is ours have a sleeve over the hose in case they rub on something and our adapters are alloy. The Trailhead has steel adapters, thats it. If you have a removable fitting radiator you need nothing special and can get all the parts on line. Unless you aren't handy at all… make them yourself.
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I run Trailhead as well! Eric (owner) is a great guy to deal with. To ECRs credit, I believe they do have the list of parts needed to make it yourself, but I like the Trailheads better...seems beefier.
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Old January 30th, 2014, 07:29 AM
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Thanks people. Follow up question: Is the actual rubber hose material any more heat resistant than the LR product? (aside the stainless braiding, which looks great but am not sure adds much thermal protection).
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Old January 30th, 2014, 08:02 AM
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Thanks people. Follow up question: Is the actual rubber hose material any more heat resistant than the LR product? (aside the stainless braiding, which looks great but am not sure adds much thermal protection).
The main point of the lines is moving them well away from the exhaust manifold, thereby making the temp. issue a non-issue.
When they are moved (like most aftermarket lines do) the lines are only subject to ambient engine bay temps, not the very high temps of being 1" from the RH exhaust manifold.
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Sensible. Thanks!
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Old January 31st, 2014, 09:05 AM
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Quick note: No problem to offer you all the info on the fittings you need, but to do that you have to tell us what radiator you have and what year your 90 is. There are different fittings for different years, etc. We can't do it by just "send me the list" as a request.

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http://www.eastcoastrover.com/110oillines.html

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Are there any handy instructions for the replacement? I searched briefly and haven't seen anything. I'm hoping its straightforward for a '97 D90. I'm going with the Trailhead parts. Thanks!
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Take out oil cooler line adapter plate. Replace oil filter housing. Throw away oil cooler lines. Done.
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Are there any handy instructions for the replacement? I searched briefly and haven't seen anything. I'm hoping its straightforward for a '97 D90. I'm going with the Trailhead parts. Thanks!
It is very simple. Take them to a local mechanic am have an oil change done and have these swapped out.
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Take out oil cooler line adapter plate. Replace oil filter housing. Throw away oil cooler lines. Done.
Yep, many mechanics I've talked too said they think these motors run the oil too cold and sludge it up.
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How many of you have removed the lines altogether? Is that what you are implying Nomar? Just remove them entirely?
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I have removed them from 14cux engines. On the later GEMS (97 model year 90's) setup there is no adapter plate to remove, the lines attach to the front cover.
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Having just done mine on a 97, you do not replace the adaptor, you just replace the fitting that goes into the adaptor. You can save a dime or two if you just ordered the parts from Summit Racing, but then you would have to experiment on lengths and hope you ordered the correct fittings. It is a challenge to get the proper sized wrench on the fittings and adaptors. I almost took my 22 mm wrench to the bandsaw to make a stubby. In the end it worked out.

Hoses, regardless weather they have the braid over them, die from age (worse in metropolitan areas, its the ozone that causes the cracking). In aircraft we toss the set every 5 years. It absolutely sucks when they blow, its happened to me in the air, more than once.
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I have removed them from 14cux engines. On the later GEMS (97 model year 90's) setup there is no adapter plate to remove, the lines attach to the front cover.
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Yep, many mechanics I've talked too said they think these motors run the oil too cold and sludge it up.
Land Rover must have spent the extra money specing them for some reason?!? Well, that's my theory anyway. My preference would be to replace the sandwich adapter with a thermostatically controlled one, so the oil gets to go to the cooler when it needs to, and doesn't when there is no need. Now how effective the stock cooler is is also up for debate I guess, but..
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think it would have to be looped instead but picking up what you are putting down and agree whole heartedly.
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