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Old September 20th, 2006, 04:38 PM
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I got mine from Sane George at RDS. They are just the regular rover part.
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They are just new parts that I got at the dealer. I had a bit of trouble trying to find a place that could put new hoses on. Everytime I would call a place they would say they couldn't do it, so I gave up. Now that I will have my old set out of the truck, I can take them to some places and hopefully make myself an upgraded set for next time they need to be replaced. They were around $250.00 for the set, but that's better than having a melted truck.
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Old September 28th, 2006, 07:51 PM
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BUMP!!!

Just today I was driving and noticed a smell of burning oil... COuldnt be me naaah. Yeah, a minute later white smoke is coming out of my hood and into the passenger compartment. I pull into a lot,turn it off and open the hood.. Luckily no flames I guess, just an oil soaked engine compartment. There was about a 2mm hole in one of the lines spraying oil all over. I got a ride to the depot, got some hose clamps and short piece of hot water hose and patched it up for the 15 min ride home. I WAS LUCKY!!

Ive got a new(er) radiator with the permanent male threads.. Any ready made solution to this besides the factory replacements?

EVERYONE CHANGE THEIR LINES!!!

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Old September 28th, 2006, 08:30 PM
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If you can't find a local hydraulic shop to rebuild them, just get originals. As you and I both learned, we are literally playing with fire if you haven't replaced them.

If you do go original, offer up your old lines for someone else to be able to get them rebuilt and then do the swap and pass on their old ones so someone else can do the same.

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Old September 28th, 2006, 08:38 PM
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Just finished installing my custom Oil lines ( installed by rover tech ) . The tech took about 1 1/2 hrs to install due to trying different clearance angles around the exhaust manifol. The tech complained that the next time I make the lines to cut as close to the the rubber hose and crimp part so as to keep the same angle and bends as stock .They look great and no modifications needed. I'll be making a new set with the old lines for my wife's 90. I'll post pics soon.
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Old September 28th, 2006, 08:38 PM
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If you do go original, offer up your old lines for someone else to be able to get them rebuilt and then do the swap and pass on their old ones so someone else can do the same.

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I have the used ones with the adaptor sitting in the shop that I'd be happy to pass on to anyone that needs them -- will bring to the middy if anyone wants them.
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Old September 28th, 2006, 09:07 PM
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Ive got a new(er) radiator with the permanent male threads.. Any ready made solution to this besides the factory replacements?

~Steve
For anyone with this "permanent male thread", can you post the thread size? It'd be good info for others to have.

I have several sets of the oil lines and (nearly all) the fittings. Had to go back to the supplier because we got the radiator fittings wrong. Should have it all cleared up by MAR and can bring them with me.
2 sets of lines and fittings for $77. You buy your own Mocal sandwich plate (or fittings to existing oil filter adapter).
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Old September 28th, 2006, 09:11 PM
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Ken, I don't know what it is, but I think it's exactly the same as on the ones that can be removed. The only difference is you can't remove it

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Old September 28th, 2006, 11:56 PM
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Ken, I don't know what it is, but I think it's exactly the same as on the ones that can be removed. The only difference is you can't remove it

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Duh! Ok, now that I've been reminded of the obvious, then it's an easy solution. I can get fittings for those... EZ

Now then, who of you with fixed threads on the radiator want some stainless lines??
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Old September 29th, 2006, 08:44 AM
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Ken, just in case, it's not the thread size/pitch that the problem, but the type of fitting thats the issue. Are you sure you can get a fitting that works for that (i.e. goes inside the radiator fitting and the seal is made with pressure against the outer edge of the fitting?

Also, why replace the sandwich plate instead of just sourcing the right fitings for that side too? Fittings would be much cheaper.

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Old September 29th, 2006, 09:35 AM
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Charles, The stock fitting is an o-ring type fitting. You don't have to replace it with this - a regular threaded type will work as we're not talking high pressure here.

I'll say it again: use your fittings and replace the hose. Reroute them if you wish or wrap them near the manifold. Less than $50 per line - what's wrong with that?

I wonder if you can fit a metal shield around them in the hot area: wrap in some insulation and then wrap a metal shield around that.

Or, if there's room, install a metal shield on the manifold in that area. Just leave a space between it and the manifold for air flow and that in itself will reduce temps.
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Charles, The stock fitting is an o-ring type fitting. You don't have to replace it with this - a regular threaded type will work as we're not talking high pressure here.
OK, good to know, but this appears to have been a challenge to everyone from day one - otherwise why have they been removing this from the radiator (when they can)?

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I'll say it again: use your fittings and replace the hose. Reroute them if you wish or wrap them near the manifold. Less than $50 per line - what's wrong with that?
Nothing, in fact thats what I did (scroll back a page to see pictures). It cost me $115 for the pair here in NOVA.

But if the right fittings can be sourced, you can replace the entire lines for less, and I see no harm in that too.

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Duh! Ok, now that I've been reminded of the obvious, then it's an easy solution. I can get fittings for those... EZ

Now then, who of you with fixed threads on the radiator want some stainless lines??
Good luck getting that fitting "EZ". We have never been able to source it from anyone, Russell, Aero-Quip, etc etc. It is an outside thread fitting (pipe with a bell fitting on it). Nobody makes anything like it in the aftermarket.

If you have a fitting for that that is EZ, I'd sure love to see it.
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Old September 29th, 2006, 11:02 AM
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If anyone can source the fittings, Id definitely spring for a set of the couplings or hoses.. Luckily I have a vehicle for the weekend and dont need my rover immediately.. But by next week ill be removing them, cleaning and getting them redone I guess.

Im in Northern New Jersey - Anyone around here get theres re-hosed locally? Id love a tip on a place..

good luck all
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Good luck getting that fitting "EZ". We have never been able to source it from anyone, Russell, Aero-Quip, etc etc. It is an outside thread fitting (pipe with a bell fitting on it). Nobody makes anything like it in the aftermarket.

If you have a fitting for that that is EZ, I'd sure love to see it.
Mike, I see what you're saying. Talked to the supplier and he says that they DON'T have a fitting with a 1/2" compression nut on one end and a -10 AN thread on the other. He's got another idea on how to fabricate one though. I'll get a price for that and post more info later.
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Has anyone decided to eliminate the in-radiator cooler, and add an actual oil cooler core out in front of the radiator? Maybe a 12x4x2 or a 12x6x2 along with a thermosatic sandwich plate adapter??
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Steel line, rubber line, titanium line... why run it 2" from an exhaust manifold if the goal of an "oil cooler" is to reduce oil temps.
Couple weeks I should have a 97 "away from the manifold line solution", don't think it will be as easy or pretty as the 93-94 unit though.
Any update on oil cooler lines for us 97 guys?
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Currently working on the adapter for the 95 style radiator fitting, that should be done in a week or so, but after looking into the 97 system I do not see any easy, or semi-easy set up that does not include the fittings from the original lines. So now there are no plans for the 97s. Can't see a way to make it happen that is any better than getting the factory lines remade or covering them with thermo-sleeve.
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Old October 3rd, 2006, 10:55 AM
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Took my lines OUT, took the sandwich plate OUT, drove at normal operating temp today so far on a cool morning.. Ill let yall know if anything starts acting fishy. A nice feeling to have eliminated a potential source of problems.. As long as my cooling system takes to it. Time will tell.

Anyone know the thread size of the fixed male fittings in my radiator so I can get some proper caps?
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