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Old November 20th, 2012, 12:32 AM
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Oil changes through dipstick suction

Hi guys,

Anyone here do oil changes by using a fluid extractor pump such as the Mityvac 7201? Works by inserting a tube down through the dipstick tube and suctioning the oil from the sump. Wondering if anyone can recommend a good pump? Am pondering the Mityvac that goes for about $80 on Amazon, but wondering if there is any particular model out there that works well for a Defender ...

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Old November 20th, 2012, 12:37 AM
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What's wrong with your drain plug?
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There are several of these available, not sure which model fits your drain plug hole.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=...at=0&_from=R40

Easy to use, no oil on your hands, drain kinda slow, but clean. I have one on my 300Tdi. Might look into Fumoto drains too.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...36&_nkw=fumoto
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Unless there's a physical reason you can't drain it the normal way, I'd stick with the drain plug. IMO it's a good health check of the engine, plus particulate gets flushed out.
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You can get a drain plug adapter that allows a hose connection to accomplish the same thing with an oil extractor. Made for boats
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Unless there's a physical reason you can't drain it the normal way, I'd stick with the drain plug. IMO it's a good health check of the engine, plus particulate gets flushed out.
100% right.
You get under the truck to remove the oil filter. Removing the drain plug is just as easy.
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You can get a drain plug adapter that allows a hose connection to accomplish the same thing with an oil extractor. Made for boats
I think difflock has it.
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bought it, tried it, returned it.

don't waste your time or money.
got about a quart out, bicycle pump broke (same day), and returned it.
Mityvac simply couldn't produce vacuum needed.

There are compressed air versions out there but (as stated previously) the old way is probably the best.

edit: of course the idiot operating the device may have been at fault...
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This is it. I have one and it works fabulous. I use it for oil changes on the boat, sucking the hydraulic out of the chipper, anything that you want to remotely remove petro-fluids from.
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I have a dipstick tube device for my boat engines. Its painfully slow, but they hold 4 gallons ea.
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difflock drain plug although to be honest, the original drain plug will allow oil to drain quicker, and as was said above, allow any "bits" to come out of the sump allowing you to see if your engine is about to expire.
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difflock drain plug although to be honest, the original drain plug will allow oil to drain quicker, and as was said above, allow any "bits" to come out of the sump allowing you to see if your engine is about to expire.
If there is anything other than oil draining, I would want to know about it right then...
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difflock drain plug although to be honest, the original drain plug will allow oil to drain quicker, and as was said above, allow any "bits" to come out of the sump allowing you to see if your engine is about to expire.
Identical to Fram's Shur Drain (discontinued but some for sale on eBaY)
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Many thanks for all these great replies, guys. Knew about the Difflock drain plug but figured the fluid extractor would be cleaner and easier. Want to be able to change oil in a cramped garage with no fuss or mess. But yeah, I have read here and there that some of the pump type ones don't work that well.
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As Doug said, they work for the boat (I use one) but no sense in doing it on the D...just do it the old fashioned way to make sure you get all the old stuff out.
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You still have to get under there to swap filters so I fail to see the benefit. The filter swap is the messier part anyways.
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You still have to get under there to swap filters so I fail to see the benefit. The filter swap is the messier part anyways.
especially on a tdi. Friggin hate that job.
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especially on a tdi. Friggin hate that job.
On the Tdi, I take a 1 gal. milk jug & cut out, opposite the handle, a hole large enough to fit over the filter. I use a strap wrench to loosen the filter just a little and a disposable Harbor freight glove to spin it until it drops in the jug. I also put down a couple of rags to catch any stray drippings. Then wriggle out the milk container....done.
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You should try a Td5 filter change then... bloody thing needs to be fitted in at an angle... great with the new empty one, but pulling the old one out...messy! and you can't get a filter wrench in there either.
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For those who really hate the oil filter mess, you could always install a remote mount so the filter is vertical.
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