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Old December 5th, 2010, 09:09 PM
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Offroad lights?

What should I go with the Hella 4000 or the lightforce 170's?
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Old December 5th, 2010, 10:03 PM
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You can get Hella 4000 euro beam for around 90$ on amazon (each).

They work great, just be sure to install them with proper wire and one relay for each light.
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I am very pleased with my 4000's.
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I rolled my D90 2 1/2 times down rock with Light Force 140s on the to of my brush bar and they don't show any damage and still are working fine 4 years later.
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You can get Hella 4000 euro beam for around 90$ on amazon (each).

They work great, just be sure to install them with proper wire and one relay for each light.
One relay per pair is all that is needed.

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Old December 6th, 2010, 10:54 PM
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One relay per pair is all that is needed.

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In my experience when you put that load on a single relay ( the euro beam version is 100 watt so we're talking 16 amp), you get a lot of sparkles inside the relay that will create deposits on contacts (premature failure). I don't know in the US but here a 12 volt Bosch relay is less than 10 bucks so i don't see the point.
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In my experience when you put that load on a single relay ( the euro beam version is 100 watt so we're talking 16 amp), you get a lot of sparkles inside the relay that will create deposits on contacts (premature failure). I don't know in the US but here a 12 volt Bosch relay is less than 10 bucks so i don't see the point.
Never had these issues. And I think my Bosch relays were $1.77 on ebay.

Dana, go with the Hellas.
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Old December 8th, 2010, 09:46 AM
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In my experience when you put that load on a single relay ( the euro beam version is 100 watt so we're talking 16 amp), you get a lot of sparkles inside the relay that will create deposits on contacts (premature failure). I don't know in the US but here a 12 volt Bosch relay is less than 10 bucks so i don't see the point.

Sparkles?

If you do the math, one relay is more than enough for a pair of 100w Hellas...

The harness for the 4000s from Hella run one relay per pair as well...
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Sparkles?

If you do the math, one relay is more than enough for a pair of 100w Hellas...

The harness for the 4000s from Hella run one relay per pair as well...
Just make sure to get a good brand relay. Using cheap ones, I tend to blow out a 35amp relay at least once a year driving my cooling fans...... which are only pulling 20 amps.

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I have the 4000 and like them. I used the wire harness from hella, not sure if it has two relays but I never had a problem.I did have to cut holes in my grill for the depth...I used the light bar for the front bumper. Not sure anyone else had to do this but I was like f' it I can always get a new grill if I want to loss the lights.. Don't really like the switch though, anyone ever change that?
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