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Old August 8th, 2016, 10:29 AM
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OEM brush guard fitment issue

I am attempting to install an OEM brush guard and running into a funny issue. It seems that my bumper is about 1" too narrow to install it. My bumper is 3.5" from bolt holes to front, it seems it should be 4.5" from bolt holes to front. Because of this there is no provision to attach the 3rd (front) attachment bolt and it overhangs.

The guard lines up with the rear bumper bolts, and fits the body of the vehicle fine. This tells me it is for the right vehicle. It just overhangs the front of the bumper by about 1"

Anyone have any ideas? Is the ROW bumper different? Is there an A/C bumper?








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Old August 8th, 2016, 10:48 AM
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I'm pretty sure that is just how they are meant to fit. You need to drill the third hole.
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Old August 8th, 2016, 10:50 AM
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I'm pretty sure that is just how they are meant to fit. You need to drill the third hole.
It's not about drilling the front bumper. It is that it overhangs about 1" over the front.

I don't know if I can even drill the 3rd hole because it is overhanging off the bumper some.

I would love to see a close up of this installed on another truck. Or a width measurement of a NAS front bumper.

I would modify the brush guard by cutting the back off by about an inch and drill new holes. That would make it line up flush with the front of the bumper but then the brush guard hits the fender flares.



------ Follow up post added August 8th, 2016 11:59 AM ------

I just found this thread of a guy selling one. Looks like the same guard but the feet on his are different.

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...set-49982.html



Is mine for a D110 maybe?
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Old August 8th, 2016, 11:26 AM
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i've not heard of a difference between ROW90/ROW110

my ROW bumper looks to be the same as yours, except yours is way shinier


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Old August 8th, 2016, 12:14 PM
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Is this a Britpart? I kid but not really.
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Old August 8th, 2016, 02:11 PM
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Is this a Britpart? I kid but not really.
The brush bar is OEM. The bumper maybe it is aftermarket? Not sure

Maybe this bar is for that 1994 model with the lights in the bumper? Maybe that is 1" thicker?
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Old August 8th, 2016, 02:24 PM
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The brush bar is OEM. The bumper maybe it is aftermarket? Not sure

Maybe this bar is for that 1994 model with the lights in the bumper? Maybe that is 1" thicker?
Those are the same. The series bumpers stick out more (pretty sure I have that right, they are certainly different and one sticks out more than the other). My guess is you have a series brush bar.
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Looks like a 95/97 brush bar to me. Anyone measure how far out a nas bumper sticks?

Honestly this not fitting is a blessing. It's garbage that will do more harm than good anyway.
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Old August 9th, 2016, 06:52 AM
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I can measure mine when I get her back from TrailHead later this week...I'm sure someone here will beat me to it by then. On a side note, if you decide to sell let me know :-)
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That brush bar is for a truck fitted with factory winch bumper. Sent you PM.
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Old August 9th, 2016, 08:31 AM
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aftermarket front bumper get a stock one.
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aftermarket front bumper get a stock one.
I had RN take measurements. It isn't my bumper.

It seems this brush guard is made for the OEM Winch bumper. The feet are different then the other. Also the middle bar on mine is higher then the other models. Or so it seems.
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There is a difference between the two sets of parts.

Look at this image:

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I had RN take measurements. It isn't my bumper.

It seems this brush guard is made for the OEM Winch bumper. The feet are different then the other. Also the middle bar on mine is higher then the other models. Or so it seems.
So just get a new OEM winch bumper & winch.... problem solved.
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Looks like a 95/97 brush bar to me. Anyone measure how far out a nas bumper sticks? Honestly this not fitting is a blessing. It's garbage that will do more harm than good anyway.
This.

I'd get a stick of rectangle tube from the steel yard and weld tabs on for a cheap and decent bumper.

Or get one of RN's plain winch jobbers for $550.
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I am talking with dlee888. I think we are going to do an exchange as he wants the winch version.
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This.

I'd get a stick of rectangle tube from the steel yard and weld tabs on for a cheap and decent bumper.

Or get one of RN's plain winch jobbers for $550.
I think he meant the brush guard is junk.
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I am attempting to install an OEM brush guard and running into a funny issue. It seems that my bumper is about 1" too narrow to install it. My bumper is 3.5" from bolt holes to front, it seems it should be 4.5" from bolt holes to front. Because of this there is no provision to attach the 3rd (front) attachment bolt and it overhangs. The guard lines up with the rear bumper bolts, and fits the body of the vehicle fine. This tells me it is for the right vehicle. It just overhangs the front of the bumper by about 1" Anyone have any ideas? Is the ROW bumper different? Is there an A/C bumper?

That is one shiny bumper!!!
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That is one shiny bumper!!!
LOL the prior owner did that as well to the rear bumper, headlight surrounds, and grill. Part of me likes it, and part of me wishes it was matte black. It does look shiny and clean...
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