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Old January 30th, 2016, 07:24 PM
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Now the fun starts.

Did about 150 miles in the defender today and I experienced some issues and probably blew a fuse.

First, the odometer has been going in and out intermittently. It looks like it is still counting the mileage but not displaying the digits because when it comes back on, the miles are still correct... Today, it didn't flicker back on...

Second, the check engine light came on about half way through the day. It has come on once before, I believe from me not tightening down the fule cap when I first got her. It went off a couple of fillups later.

Lastly, and most seriously, the headlights simultaneously died 6 miles before we got home. The highs and the lows both went out. The highs would work if you pulled the stalk back but not if you pushed it forward. I'm thinking its a fuse or relay as the marker lights stayed lit. We just used the Hellas for the rest of the ride home.

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Old January 30th, 2016, 08:21 PM
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Did about 150 miles in the defender today and I experienced some issues and probably blew a fuse. First, the odometer has been going in and out intermittently. It looks like it is still counting the mileage but not displaying the digits because when it comes back on, the miles are still correct... Today, it didn't flicker back on... Second, the check engine light came on about half way through the day. It has come on once before, I believe from me not tightening down the fule cap when I first got her. It went off a couple of fillups later. Lastly, and most seriously, the headlights simultaneously died 6 miles before we got home. The highs and the lows both went out. The highs would work if you pulled the stalk back but not if you pushed it forward. I'm thinking its a fuse or relay as the marker lights stayed lit. We just used the Hellas for the rest of the ride home. One year of defender ownership and the fun is just starting.
The headlights and gauge light (?) all sound like a grounding issue.

I'd make sure the bulkhead ground is well sorted as it could cause these issues intermittently.
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Old January 30th, 2016, 08:35 PM
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Your CEL is not sensitive enough to trip from a loose fuel cap.



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Old January 30th, 2016, 08:38 PM
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The headlights and gauge light (?) all sound like a grounding issue.

I'd make sure the bulkhead ground is well sorted as it could cause these issues intermittently.

Not the gauge light but the actual LEDs or whatever they are that make up the digits in the display...

But either way, where's the bulkhead ground? I'll poke around in the morning...

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Your CEL is not sensitive enough to trip from a loose fuel cap.



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http://www.defender2.net/forum/post175512.html

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Old January 30th, 2016, 09:56 PM
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That odometer doesn't sound fuse related. It's a common 97 issue and you'll need to send the speedo in. I had mine done at Hollywood Speedo.

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The headlights is due to a worn switch. No fixes that I'm aware of. Zack at Rovers North can hook you up Monday. Easy replace/repair.

Odometer is a common problem that has been discussed a lot on the forum. You can read a lot about it if ECR's site. What I've done to fix mine is dry out the area behind the gauges with a hair dryer. Even humid summer days cause mine to fade but once it dries it comes back. I have also cocked the gauge a quarter turn to lengthen the ribbon wire to the odom. This will make more sense if you read the write up on ECRs site. They shorten the ribbon to fix the problem. Mine has been working fine for 12 years 150k miles.
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Old January 31st, 2016, 09:20 AM
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I have read the ECR writeup before... Never from the perspective of reading about my own truck. Time to reread.
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As far as the headlights go, it looks like the headlight switch is the culprit. In the first position, I get dash lights and running lights, but everything goes dark in the 2nd position.

I can get the high beams to come on if I pull the direction indicator towards the driver to flash the highs. Nothing happens when I push the direction indicator forwards to turn on the high beams.

Looks like I'm looking for a used headlight switch.
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buy a new light switch...otherwise you are waiting a short period for the same issue
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AND install a headlight relay loom. The stock switch can't take the power. No point in a used switch as 100% of them die.

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buy a new light switch...otherwise you are waiting a short period for the same issue
x2! And a relay kit so you aren't running the load of the headlamps through the switch. Its a bad design, well documented here, and even with stock lights, you will see an improvement, and eliminate the inevitable future failure of your replacement switch, after installing a relay kit..
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AND install a headlight relay loom. The stock switch can't take the power. No point in a used switch as 100% of them die. Boomslang Performance Headlight Loom - Paddock Spares - Paddock Spares
Just ordered this kit; nice piece of equipment.

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Headlight switch is an easy fix, just need screwdriver and some patience with the plastic surrounding the steering column. I switched mine out with new one but did not do the relay.

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As above, the relay not only saves the switch, it improves the headlight output quite a bit.
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As above, the relay not only saves the switch, it improves the headlight output quite a bit.
Even when running LED's?
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Even when running LED's?
I doubt it would affect light output with an LED as they have built in voltage compensation and are usually designed down to 10 volts or so. I would still do it for the switch.
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I was hoping I would get lucky with some electrical grease on the contacts but not so much.

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Yeah Matt the issue is power coming direct from the battery to the switch which in turn when flicked on sends the power to the lights. Funny as it is exactly what a house switch does (interruptor there is a fuse). So regardless of LEDs or not the switch has a 12v load uninterrupted from the battery. That's the problem. Even with LEDs that draw nothing in comparison to other lights
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