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Old May 11th, 2009, 03:33 PM
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Ordered new genuine cap and rotor and new genuine fuel pump to be safe. VOR from mikey.

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Old May 11th, 2009, 10:52 PM
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Used good ignition module and used good circular capacitor near coil. No love. Unplugged each fuel injector one by one. No love. Now she won't start at all and I don't think I have spark at the coil even.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 07:58 AM
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And you guys laugh at me when I say EFI scares me!

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Old May 12th, 2009, 10:04 AM
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It's starting to sound like just coincidence with the rain. Next up the dizzy?
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Old May 12th, 2009, 10:50 AM
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I had had my D90 for about a month...not long enough to accumulate the necesary carry-along tools, parts and supplies (like WD-40). I was staying at a guest house in the middle of no-where and it poured down rain all night. Yup, the D90 wouldn't start the next morning and I was all by myself with no cell service etc. I was getting desparate, looking everywhere for wire dry or WD-40 when in an old shed I found a backpack leaf blower. Its amazing how quickly 300mph wind will dry out an ignition system! Worked like a charm.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 03:49 PM
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Thanks for the tips. Mike, it has been dry for a week so I don't think it is water related. I am down to the fuel pump (on order), the ignition switch or a wiring short as possible culprits.

Frank is coming tonight. I have not lost [all] faith.

BTW all the fuses are fine as are every connector I can think of to look at.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 04:24 PM
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A fresh pair of eyes usual does wonders.
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A fresh pair of eyes usual does wonders.
Especially when those eyes have been fixing 1995 D90s since new.
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Old May 12th, 2009, 07:34 PM
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Ron you are in good company. My drama still continues from my fuel pump / won't start issue:
http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=19999

The mechanic said it fired up again today. The whole thing is intermittent which is so frustrating. He's trying to get it to not start again so he can perform some more tests.

Interested in seeing how your drama ends....

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Problem solved!

After a couple hours, Frank figured it out. The wire off the starter was rubbing against this heat shield. Frank bent it back (later I wrapped it in electrical tape, but I need to do that better when I get some more time). It had fried both ignition modules (the original and the replacement). Frank, convinced he had found the problem, decided to canibalize the LWB for parts over my objection (pic 2). Upon fitting the LWB's coil and ignition module, the truck started at the first go (pic 3).

Frank is a serious expert, watching him work just reaffirmed that no matter how much I learn about these things, I am still an amateur compared to him.

So go to www.roverrepairs.com if you are around philly and need your rover worked on. He is the BEST and he is not expensive.

Ron

PS He also had a special thing that you plugged into one of the injector plugs that lite up when it fired and it kept flickering every now and again. I think this is what tipped him off to the short (other than the rover gods favor Frank )
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Oof, use a fender guard please.

Glad to hear you got it resolved!
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You are kidding, right?
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[QUOTE=evilfij]Problem solved!

The wire off the starter was rubbing against this heat shield. [QUOTE]


Wow. That's a new one to add to the "no-start: things-to-check-list..."
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Problem solved!

The wire off the starter was rubbing against this heat shield.
Wow. That's a new one to add to the "no-start: things-to-check-list..."
Glad to hear you guys got it. Yeah, that is a doozy. HTF did you guys think to check that?
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HTF did you guys think to check that?
The injector sensor light thing kept flickering every couple minutes which lead Frank to believe it was a short somewhere. While I was cranking it, Frank saw it arc at the shorting wire and determined that had to be it. Of course, it was another hour before we figured out (ok Frank figured out) it fried both ignition modules. I ordered two used ones ($25 each) and a new genuine one ($90) from Will Tillary (www.roverguy.com).
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One, hopefully final, update. We had a good rain last night and she started in the morning fine.

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