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Old October 31st, 2013, 03:07 PM
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New owner here making myself known. I just bought a 94 Defender 90NAS convertable (softtop?) and am in the decision process. I originally bought it as an investment with the intention of fixing it up and reselling but now?? It has a bad engine and in exploring the possibilities I've almost convinced myself if it had a diesel I'd keep it and ditch the Chevy pickups for good. I have 2 VW diesels and several old Brit motorcycles so nothing about the engines or the oddities of Brit engineering will surprise me too much but ya never know. Hope ya'all don't mind lots of questions, some of em might even make sense.
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Old October 31st, 2013, 03:54 PM
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Welcome. Post up some photos. Wall Street is for investing, not Defenders...but it sounds like you may have already found that out the hard way.

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Old October 31st, 2013, 03:59 PM
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Welcome Mike.
there are plenty of threads on here talking about the pros-cons of diesel vs. petrol, so lets not get into that here. Like Josh said, take a look at RDavis' posts regarding the Merc conversion.

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in case you're trying to keep it in the Land Rover family
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Old October 31st, 2013, 05:38 PM
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Old October 31st, 2013, 05:52 PM
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What's up with the engine?

And a 300tdi is a period correct and straightforward conversion.
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Old October 31st, 2013, 08:50 PM
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Engine runs,but it has a chunk missing where something inside tried to get out I have several BSA engine cases with the same problem...must be poor casting?
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Old October 31st, 2013, 09:26 PM
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pictures.of.your.truck.
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Old November 1st, 2013, 08:00 AM
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Least expensive route is to but a low mileage RRC rust bucket and throw the engine into your 90. If you want a little more oomph, get an LWB(4.2) -Jeff
Least expensive is to put a post up asking if anyone has a 3.9 on the board ... Generally they can't give them away!
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Old November 1st, 2013, 08:38 AM
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Unless it's been fixed already a new chassis is probably going to be needed.
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Welcome to the forum MikeG, and good luck figuring things out with your Defender!
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The only british engineering under your hood is the Lucas fuel injection. The engine was originally a buick 215 v8 who's design was bought by rover. Rover 3.9 v8's are everywhere and one needing a rebuild is usaully feee for the taking and there are several firms that will build you a long block to r&r your ailing one.
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Old November 1st, 2013, 11:08 AM
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Thanks for the replies...sorry...no pictures yet, it's not home yet.....I have access to a gas engine, no problem. If the conversion to diesel is reasonable enough I'll keep it as a daily driver and ditch my pickup. It's gotta be better on fuel hauling a 12 foot box trailer full of bikes than a GM V8. Chassis is actually very good. This car spent most of its life on Nantucket at the owners "cottage" parked in the heated garage.
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Thanks for the replies...sorry...no pictures yet, it's not home yet.....I have access to a gas engine, no problem. If the conversion to diesel is reasonable enough I'll keep it as a daily driver and ditch my pickup. It's gotta be better on fuel hauling a 12 foot box trailer full of bikes than a GM V8. Chassis is actually very good. This car spent most of its life on Nantucket at the owners "cottage" parked in the heated garage.
gas mileage will be good but you won't be towing anything with a land rover diesel! At least no where fast
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Considering a year on Nantucket equals ten years anywhere else in terms of corrosion, consider yourself lucky if indeed your truck spent its like inside a heated garage.

Befopre you go jumping to conclusions about replacing the entire engine and converting to diesel, take a thorough look at the engine in-situ. Maybe pull the sump pan and have a look around. Pull the heads. could be a slipped sleeve, could be something minor. The most bang for you buck will be to replace with a 4.6 out of some P38 or something. Converting to diesel will become costly (especially if you're looking for a decent 200/300Tdi). You could be looking at frame mount modifications, crossmember changes, bellhousing changes etc. Then at the end of the day although you will have doubled your fuel economy it won't be the quiet, responsive daily driver that your V8 was.

Just saying that you could easily spend $8,000-$10,000 upgrading to a 300Tdi when rover V8s are much easier to find and will almost be a plug-n-play situation. It just depends on how much you want to have into ($$$) your new D-90. If all you paid was high teens/low twenties for your truck, then go ahead and make the investment in a 300Tdi, but IMO if your truck is as nice as you say (no rust), try to keep it mostly original and stick with an upgraded V8. I don't think the Rover market dings anyone for a non-matching numbers truck or even a 4.6 swap, but not everyone wants a diesel. Just something to consider.
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Old November 1st, 2013, 11:41 AM
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This car spent most of its life on Nantucket at the owners "cottage" parked in the heated garage.
So did this truck.

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gas mileage will be good but you won't be towing anything with a land rover diesel! At least no where fast
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The cost quotes on converting to a 300tdi are right - expect to spend a minimum of 10K and some blood, sweat, and time in the process. That said I and many other love the diesel powered Defender - and associated range afforded by doubling the mileage.

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Thats almost as bad as a 5 year old GM truck anywhere else!
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pictures.of.your.truck.
This makes me start to wonder if the Horsey Stalking Operations Center now has a special operations cell up and running....

"Pictures of the truck..... Or. Else."
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This makes me start to wonder if the Horsey Stalking Operations Center now has a special operations cell up and running.... "Pictures of the truck..... Or. Else."
He's moving into drones ... Surveillance only for now but expect them to be weaponized soon.
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