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Old May 28th, 2015, 04:20 PM
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Unhappy New Turbo on Puma after only 30K

My local garage has just told me that the bearings have gone on the turbo of my 2009 Puma and that I need a replacement - this is after only 30K. I have not heard of this being a common problem on these engines, has anyone else experienced this? Also, any suggestions on a reasonably priced replacement?
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Old May 28th, 2015, 04:32 PM
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This is primarily a US/Canadian based (No Puma trucks) group of LR owners. I'm sure you can get WAY better info from one of the UK Defender forums.
Good luck with your quest.
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Thanks, didn't realize the site was mainly North American. I guess being in the Caribbean my URL lead me to this site first.
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This is primarily a US/Canadian based """"No Puma trucks""""" group of LR owners. I'm sure you can get WAY better info from one of the UK Defender forums.
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Somebody here may still chime in with an answer but the UK site would probably be your best bet. Make sure you make an intro post there (UK site) or they go psycho on newbies. Why I don;t know.

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Many thanks for the advice!
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Roversnorth can get you the turbo
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Thanks. Just tried Land Rover Zone, but will give your suggestions a go too.
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Roversnorth can get you the turbo
It's about $1500, certainly not a common wear item at 30k
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Many thanks. I was thinking the same. I have seen problems with hoses coming loose on 2.2 TDCis but never the failure of the whole thing.
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It's about $1500, certainly not a common wear item at 30k
that includes you flying down to install it right
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My local garage has just told me that the bearings have gone on the turbo of my 2009 Puma and that I need a replacement - this is after only 30K. I have not heard of this being a common problem on these engines, has anyone else experienced this? Also, any suggestions on a reasonably priced replacement?
We can supply replacements however if the bearings are "going" and haven't gone to the point of damage the turbo can be rebuilt by a competent turbo shop. Or you can head over to the Ford dealer and order the turbo from a 140 Transit van...

Uncommon for the failure at that mileage - be certain to look after the oil feed/pressure to the turbo to ensure that the replacement doesn't do the same thing.
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that includes you flying down to install it right
Exactly....
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Many thanks. That is all very helpful. De
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Many thanks. That is all very helpful. De
just make sure you use new lines and washers on the install!
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just make sure you use new lines and washers on the install!
this and make sure you get an oil test. contaminated oil is a leading cause of premature turbo failure. trust me, I know. I would never replace a premature failure without conclusive evidence of what killed it, or you'll be doing it again in 30k or less.

coolant in oil will kill it very quickly. Get your coolant system pressure tested and your block compression tested too.
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As an aside completely,lots of short,starting and stopping journey's without letting the turbo rest at tick over for a short time can cause them to zap.

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What Ohlins said. The remedy for that, has traditionally been to add a timer that will keep the engine running for a few seconds (then shut it down automatically) after you turn the ignition off and exit the vehicle, allowing the oil in the turbo to cool down a bit.

The theory is that the oil is so hot, that it eventually damages the bearings in the turbo leading to premature failure. Allowing the engine to idle for a bit before shutting it down, circulates the oil and cools it enough to prevent that.
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What Ohlins said. The remedy for that, has traditionally been to add a timer that will keep the engine running for a few seconds (then shut it down automatically) after you turn the ignition off and exit the vehicle, allowing the oil in the turbo to cool down a bit.

The theory is that the oil is so hot, that it eventually damages the bearings in the turbo leading to premature failure. Allowing the engine to idle for a bit before shutting it down, circulates the oil and cools it enough to prevent that.
That's right..I remember the first Td Mitsubishi Shoguns as they were called in Ulster(Pajero also known as) had a timer that allowed you to exit the vehicle after locking up,with the engine at tick over. Great idea.

I remember one of our new,with zero miles,work vehicles that was used on stop start drives had a new turbo replaced at 55,000miles due to no tick over ever being taken into consideration.

My turbo,from new,has lasted 525,000kms to date so far,allowing for a short spell on tick over each time.


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