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Old July 4th, 2012, 06:14 AM
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New suspension: before and after

There are still some tweaking to do, but with Justin's (Lucky 8) help and my local mechanic Joseph Sfeir, here is my new suspension... Now I need to get new tires, but this is for another thread...

Before and after pictures included. Before you ask, the putty on the side fill the holes left from the snaps for my rail belt conversion under way.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 08:33 AM
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Sitting higher in the front?
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Old July 4th, 2012, 08:48 AM
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What lift did you use? Did you do both the front and the rear? Shocks?
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Old July 4th, 2012, 09:39 AM
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Really high in front
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Old July 4th, 2012, 10:18 AM
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Yes, I need to get the front thing fixed. I'm working on that... Keep in mind that I have small tires on right now: 245-75R16. I'll be changing these in the next few weeks, probably for 32" KM2's.

I used a twin shock tower kit from MJ Lee in the UK for the front (it's red, you can see a glimpse of it on the pictures) with Terrafirma HD springs and TF shocks. I had the MJ Lee kit from a few years ago. I was going to put it on my last D90, but never got around to it. The second shock should be installed in a few weeks.

I also had HD steering done and added diff guards. A skid plate is forthcoming, but I want it to go up to the number plate, so this requires a custom build at a local machine shop.
I think I will also need to get castor corrected arms.
In the rear it's MD springs and TF shocks. A twin kit from TF as well is going in, but my mechanic did have time to do it right now, it requires welding a bracket onto the axle.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 10:48 AM
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Something was installed incorrectly or the wrong springs were used up front.

But very curious - why go with all the new suspension stuff if you are just going to run 32" KM2s? Loose the side steps and add a good pair of sliders and you would have plenty of clearance. I agree with the diff guards, HD front steering and some under protection/skids but think the suspension especially with double shocks might be going a little overkill.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 10:59 AM
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Any reason you feel the need for using 4 shocks?
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Old July 4th, 2012, 11:08 AM
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Rear springs installed on the front.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 01:33 PM
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Rear springs installed on the front.
Thats what it looks like. The mechanic probably thought the thicker coils go in the front because of the weight of the engine.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 02:59 PM
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Thanks, Justin think this is what went wrong as well. I'll have this fixed ASAP.

The double shocks as for safety (I'm/was a risk manager, which is what I teach at the graduate level). I'm planning a long trip from Montreal to Argentina. But I agree it's not a necessity, but I had the hardware lying around, so I figured why not. I am risk averse... and since I never drive over 110KM/h per hour (usually about 100KM/h or 62MPH on the highway) handling is not a problem.

I'm going to get new front radius and trailing arms as well.

The stock side steps are going off as soon as I can get Rock sliders at a decent price. I had ordered Terrafirma at 289$ from a place in western Canada, but they where never delivered and the sale at Lucky8 had ended by then... anyway, I'm ranting. I have bent a pair on my previous D90, so I know how useless they are. The stock NAS once are more of a problem off-road, actually.

I don't want too big tires as I don't want to change the gear ratios. But I will be putting in true track lockers in the fall.
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Old July 4th, 2012, 05:06 PM
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A friend has the dual shock mounts on the front of his 90. If you are going to do this right I would suggest you go with properly valved shocks. If you just stick on two OME, as an example, standard valved shocks this will severely hamper articulation and a much harsher ride. In my friends case, we had to weld up cracks in both front spring perches.

HTH. Mark
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Old July 4th, 2012, 07:01 PM
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A friend has the dual shock mounts on the front of his 90. If you are going to do this right I would suggest you go with properly valved shocks. If you just stick on two OME, as an example, standard valved shocks this will severely hamper articulation and a much harsher ride. In my friends case, we had to weld up cracks in both front spring perches.

HTH. Mark
I agree with this. a set of correctly valved bilstein, king, or fox shocks instead of 2 mediocre shocks valved for a 4 shock per truck set up would be much better. The remove reservoir shocks can handle desert racing so I am sure they can handle your drive to Argentina and back.
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Loving the "Land Rover 90" badge up front in lieu of the hideous raised lettering they stuck on the NAS trucks. Been meaning to switch mine over.
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stupid qestion but did you do all the rubber bushings and tie rod ends. Personally, when I got my truck I redid the rubber so I knew everything was tight before lifting the vehicle.
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I changed the steering links an am changing the radius arm and trailing arm in a few weeks. The anti-sway are long gone and sitting in my storage locker.

I understood TerraFirma to be good quality shocks. I didn't want to put in reservoirs.
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Old July 7th, 2012, 01:16 AM
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I changed the steering links an am changing the radius arm and trailing arm in a few weeks. The anti-sway are long gone and sitting in my storage locker.

I understood TerraFirma to be good quality shocks. I didn't want to put in reservoirs.
Excellent place to start
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Old July 12th, 2012, 02:46 PM
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Spring fixed.

Here it is with the springs in the right position: front in front and rear spring in rear. It looks and drives a lot better.

On the pictures you can also see the result of my belt rail conversion and a little painting to hide the holes left from the snaps. I painted the rails to match the body. I had paint color matched to adjust for the aging. You can also see the snow cowl for the heater vent and notice the running boards are gone, in preparation for rock sliders to go in.

Getting closer to be ready to off-road :-)
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Old July 12th, 2012, 03:05 PM
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Yes, painting the hinges is on the list.
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Old July 13th, 2012, 10:13 AM
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If you have some of that paint left, throw a little on the hinges.

On your sliders,consider adding a 'tree slider' bar that doubles as a step. Decent for a step, and the added 3" or so will help protect the doors if you actually put them to the test.

-Jeff
Agree - love my tree sliders - helps a lot getting in an out of the 90 too. And a god-send when loading surf boards on the top.

Looking real good - glad you got that sorted out!
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Old July 13th, 2012, 02:21 PM
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I'm planning a long trip from Montreal to Argentina.
You better stop by when around here...

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