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Old April 26th, 2009, 03:27 AM
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New Style SW Doors

Looking for feedback from anyone who has purchased these doors. I am considering purchasing these doors for my ST. Pros and Cons? Do they sound more solid? Painting issues? How hard will it be to color match AA? How hard is it to take apart the doors? I will probably do this to cut down on painting cost. I assume the top part of the SW doors have the same angle as the ST door tops so hopefully the seal on my badger FDS will be the same. Where does the speaker wire run through on the SW doors? ST's go through the door card and rubber hose. Any thing else I need to be aware of? Thanks
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Old April 26th, 2009, 06:31 AM
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I just did this and painted them AA yellow, and like you mention, I totally disassembled the doors so that I would get the nicest finish possible. The hardest part about taking the doors apart is getting the door channels and glass out without bending the channels out of shape and destroying them. Other than that, its pretty much a rote assembly/disassembly process. The first door took me longer than the second of course, but they went back together quite nicely and mounted up great.

They are much more solid than soft top doors, you will be very impressed. The doors that are floating around right now aren't set up for speakers, so you'd have to cut your own hole and figure out where to run the wire.

I've got pix, so if you get the doors I can post a few that might help. Don't buy from RN, they're about half the cost from Stephen at Safari Rover.
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Old April 26th, 2009, 08:14 AM
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I just painted a set and hey were perfect. I removed the door handles and latches only. Oh, and the lower outer window weather striping. IF you tape it perfectl, you dont have to remove the glass.. I also went from white to painting them white again.....
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Old April 26th, 2009, 08:28 AM
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Yeah, I absolutely hate the any remaining paint when there is a color change, so I had mine done inside and out completely - white on white, well thats another story.
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Or you can paint the truck to match! Mine are still apart if you need any pics. I'm in the process of trying to match the locks in the doors to the ignition key. Any thoughts on this?

The Window handle didn't come off with the tool I got from my Auto body guy, but I was able to get them off with a small flathead from the handle side.(if that makes any sense) I gently pulled up on the handle and I was able to see the clip.
Only other thing was I broke a few of the Chritmas tree things across the bottom of the door card because I was rushing.
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To match locks, you mix and match the wafers to get the best possible fit - try to get the best fit along the top. You can leave a couple out if need be. After that, grind off any bits sticking out the bottom.
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To match locks, you mix and match the wafers to get the best possible fit - try to get the best fit along the top. You can leave a couple out if need be. After that, grind off any bits sticking out the bottom.
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Thanks for the response guys, might be another stupid question but what do I need to ask the paint shop about prepping the doors. Should they remove the old paint or just prep the old paint and paint over? If I purchase the speaker spacers is that enough or is there something behind the door card i need for these newer door cards? Do they come with lock barrels and you just need to re key them? Should I purchase extra door card plugs, in case I break them? I know its a pain but pics would be great.
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If the old paint is in good condition I would just prep it and paint over the old paint.

My normal prep process

Wipe part with lacquer thinner (removes any oils and stuff)
sand with light duty sand paper till you no longer see gloss
wipe part again with lacquer thinner (Use one rag to get most of the stuff off then finish with another one)
wipe with a pre paint cleaner (Precleano is the one I use)
lightly wipe with a cheese cloth that is made for use prior to painting (removes dust / fibers)

Prime and paint
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Pics

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More pix. Note if you take out the door channels that there are 3 screws in each side that are deeply buried in the felt. If you don't know they're screws you have to probe around in there and figure it out...
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JimC you are a sick man, but you are welcome to work on my truck anytime.
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Is that a "Top Gun" reference?
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As stupid as this sounds I can not for the life of me remove the lock bezel on the door card. Manuel says pry it off. Still wont go. Does this need to come off. The door card is loose all except that top right corner. I am afraid to use more pressure. Any ideas? Is there a area to pinch or what. Thanks.
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Are there any NEW STYLE push button doors for ST?
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Old May 23rd, 2009, 02:27 PM
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Yes I bought the new sw doors for my st. Just trying to take them apart.
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The lock bezel slides upward, if you pry it it will break. Just push up on it from the bottom.
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Pointers on sliding glass out? Window channels are all loose everthing is out but I can not slide the paine out the bottom. The window channels are longer than the the frame and wider when window is down at the bottom. Do I try to rotate glass?
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Window channels need to come out. Three screws each side!
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I am stumped. Can not figure out how to get the channels out to remove glass. I see that if you can remove hinge side lower channel you could then slide glass out. All the screws are removed from the channels. The top portion channels are in place held by some sort of plastic spacer that goes around the door frame. There is even a plastic tab? It seems that i need to remove the upper channels first then it should loosen the pressure on that lower straight channel, right above the upper hinge. How do I remove the upper channels and plastic spacing? Sorry for so many ?'s. These channels bend easy.
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