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Old August 8th, 2013, 12:17 PM
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I'd take one of these too, sadly this will never get made for some reason.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 09:13 AM
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and one of these...

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Old August 9th, 2013, 09:29 AM
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This is still a classic design.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 09:42 AM
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------ Follow up post added August 8th, 2013 09:18 AM ------

I'd take one of these too, sadly this will never get made for some reason.
I'd love to buy this Bronco concept!
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Old August 9th, 2013, 01:37 PM
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Land Rover simply needs to kill the defender. They are only going to build a product no one is asking for: a car that looks tough, isn't actually an off-roader, by suffers from poor design packaging and drive characteristics. It will be cancelled within 8 years, like the toyota FJ and Hummer lines.

Nobody wants a car that fits like a truck with none of the advantages of a truck. It might be hip for a year or two, then sales will plummet.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 01:49 PM
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they could just keep building what they are building and do fine with that forever, why change it at al really, it hasn't changed much in 50 years except for a ton of updating with the interior. like anything else, if you want to supercharge it, or make it offroad capable then you do that.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 05:23 PM
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they could just keep building what they are building and do fine with that forever, why change it at al really, it hasn't changed much in 50 years except for a ton of updating with the interior. like anything else, if you want to supercharge it, or make it offroad capable then you do that.
Has to change in some way to meet future EU safety regs.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 06:21 PM
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1. that makes my defender just that much more valuable
2. it's an indian company so sell them anywhere and everywhere else
3. update the eu regs and make the vehicle look as similar as possible as you can
4. the new range rover is also lame imho.

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Old August 9th, 2013, 10:48 PM
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I'm trying to understand what happened to the option of keeping what works and only improving what needs to be improved without turning into a dead bloated hippo. Is that too difficult of a job for the sketch monkeys at Land Rover?

The only reason they haven't come up with anything worthwhile yet is that the designers at Land Rover aren't up to the challenge. Call me Gerry McGovern and I'll help you sort it out. This is an official invitation.
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Old August 9th, 2013, 10:50 PM
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I agree. If you can't help but to turn it into a hanus abomination then just let it die. No one wants a Pretender... not even the pretenders.


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Land Rover simply needs to kill the defender. They are only going to build a product no one is asking for: a car that looks tough, isn't actually an off-roader, by suffers from poor design packaging and drive characteristics. It will be cancelled within 8 years, like the toyota FJ and Hummer lines.

Nobody wants a car that fits like a truck with none of the advantages of a truck. It might be hip for a year or two, then sales will plummet.
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Old August 10th, 2013, 01:13 AM
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What they need, is a sturdy, reliable vehicle that is as simple as possible, and wrap that in a body that is rugged and simple. I know the current market wants electronics and cool gizmos, and that's awesome. I just think any electronic supplements to the capabilities should not leave the vehicle stranded in the event of a failure. I would hope the next generation Defender, is a well thought out 4x4, not a flashy attention seeker.
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