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Old February 22nd, 2011, 01:35 PM
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Need winch recommendation

I'm finishing up my D90 off-rading preparation and need to order a Winch.

Can I get some recommendations ?

I was told the Warn 9.5ti but I also like the RC and the Power Plant models, but know nothing about them. I will be installing this on a MOAB bumper from Doug Shipman.

Also, since my brother is moving back from Chicago in the next few weeks and the US Dollar is low compared to the Canadian currency, I'm looking for any info on Winch sales and good deals going on the USA, which could be shipped to Chicago.

Thank you for your advise.
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Old February 22nd, 2011, 02:14 PM
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Any variation of the 8274 is still my favorite. Easily upgradable if needed and if something does go wrong in the middle of nowhere you can always use a Ford starter motor and solenoids to get it moving again. They are abit tall but it would be hard to find a faster winch that lasts 25+yrs and doesn't melt you pricy synthetic cable. Just my $0.02.
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Old February 22nd, 2011, 09:41 PM
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Saw a new 9.5ti in action this weekend and would say it's the best thing out there right now, fast, easy freespool and strong. Nice thing about them as well is no crossbars for the line to bind up on, handy on side pulls.
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Old February 22nd, 2011, 10:10 PM
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I'm likely to cause a ruckus here, but the smittybuilt XRC 8 and 10 winch can't be beat for the price and for a few dollars more you have a killer warranty from 4wd parts. Oh yeah, they match web prices as well. I had a great experience with my 8 until I sold my truck. Synthetic line and very well built in my opinion FWIW. Half the price of the Warn or other more popular models. I have had six winches in 10 years and the only one I was not happy with was the Warn and it came down to price, not features or performance. Meaning performance was never an issue and features on winches don't really set any particular one apart from another. Also, check out the harbor freight roller fairlead. Quality construction I would set side by side with Warn or Ramsey for a fraction of the cost.
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Old February 23rd, 2011, 08:26 AM
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I just put in a milemarker Si 9.5 The couple of runs have been great.
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Old February 23rd, 2011, 08:32 AM
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Any winch you install on a bumper is only as strong as the bumper mounts. As you can see there are as many opinions on winches as there are choices.
It boils down to having any winch is usually better than having no winch when you are truly stuck. Ramsey is my brand, but you go with what feels right. I'm considering a hydraullic winch on the hybrid whenever that gets off the drawing board. Prolly a Mile Marker with a Prince pump.
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Old February 23rd, 2011, 09:02 AM
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I'm happy with the T Max 10,000
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Old February 23rd, 2011, 11:57 AM
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Go with a Goodwinch TDS, they have external brakes so will not melt a synthetic drum and drum seals so will not fill with muddy water the first time you dip it and have solid state solenoids that won't randomly fail on you. My Warn 9000XP lasted about a year before the environment killed the motor and messed up the interior pretty badly. I hear Warn may finally be sealing some models but check on this.

If cost is not a concern then you cannot beat a Red Winch.
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Superwinch Husky 10 is my favorite...
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Old February 23rd, 2011, 01:38 PM
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Once you've used an 8274, you can never go back.
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Old February 23rd, 2011, 02:47 PM
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I'm likely to cause a ruckus here, but the smittybuilt XRC 8 and 10 winch can't be beat for the price and for a few dollars more you have a killer warranty from 4wd parts. Oh yeah, they match web prices as well. I had a great experience with my 8 until I sold my truck. Synthetic line and very well built in my opinion FWIW. Half the price of the Warn or other more popular models. I have had six winches in 10 years and the only one I was not happy with was the Warn and it came down to price, not features or performance. Meaning performance was never an issue and features on winches don't really set any particular one apart from another. Also, check out the harbor freight roller fairlead. Quality construction I would set side by side with Warn or Ramsey for a fraction of the cost.

I'm with you I have the XRC 8 as well and I'm happy with the decision.
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I love my Superwinch Husky 10. It's a beast of a winch, well-made, and looks right on a Defender.

I used a Mantec bumper, a Brownchurch brush guard, and Amsteel Blue winch line.

I did a write-up on my install here.

More photos here.
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Old February 23rd, 2011, 03:26 PM
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Spend the big bucks and get the Powerplant. It is a 9.5Ti with the built in compressor. It is rather large so not to every bodies liking. The bigger question is what winch will your bumper take. The Warn are off set a little more than some of the others. The 8274 is really tall and expensive like the powerplant.
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Old February 23rd, 2011, 03:51 PM
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Avoid department store winches such as T-Maxx, Smittybuilt, Cummings, Mile Marker (electric), Chicago Electric, Tabor, etc.. Stick with a brand such as Warn or Superwinch. Ramsey is good, too, but not as good as they once were.

Avoid the common "it's just a re-badged Warn" gossip when it come to cheaper winches. It's not.

It's a lot cheaper to buy one good winch rather than buy several el-cheapo winches. I've had the Mile Marker and they work fine for a few years, but they just do not last.

The Huskey 10 is the last winch you'd ever buy. You can't not like that winch for what it is, but I hate it. The worm gear drive is ridiculously slow. It's as slow as a Mile Marker. But the Huskey 10 just won't quit. It's a great winch, but I still hate it.

The 8274 is a bitchin winch. Love those things. But they're big. Actually, they're huge. But it's an awesome winch.

Those Warn Powerplants are a waste of money. They're big, ugly, and worthless. If you want on-board air, buy a dedicated air pump.

The Warn Ti series winches are tits. Very nice winch. They cost some coin, but they're a very nice winch. Good duty cycles, great line speed, and they're well built.

The Warn XD series winches are good, too. I have the XD9000i that's forever old and always works. That means a lot when you . I've had two of these and they've been fine.

I'm not a big fan of the M-series Warn winches.

The best bang-for-the-buck, IMO, is the Superwinch EP9. You can get them for $540.00, shipped, from Amazon.com. That leaves you a few extra bucks to buy some synthetic winch line. We've got this on the GF's LR3 and it has no problems pulling that heavy ass truck. Its been installed for 4-years now and still works like new.
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The older Warn 9.5HS is the best winch there is IMO. Nothing is faster. You need to find it used. One is for sale right now on pirate. $700. It's small, light, fast, and strong and won't melt anything (myth). Good luck with whatever you end up with.
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I like my little Superwinch Rock95 but it seems they have discontinued it in favor of the new Rock98. Only 50 feet of 3/8's line but finding a tree is rarely a problem where I wheel most of the time and you can always anchor to another truck or use an extension. Mostly it gets you down a few wraps on shorter pulls which is nice.
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ive got the 9.5ti warn and some viking line and love the performance of that winch....i had to enlarge my SG bumper to fit but no biggy.....i also have seen the ep superwinch and that is great as well and they have a awesome warranty, opposed to warn which i hear can be tough to deal with
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The line on the winch drum is subjected to UV exposure, dirt, ice, and water which is pretty rough on it and mine from Viking lasted 2 years before it started to snap with even a moderate pull (and it was originally rated at I believe 16,500lbs) and unless you're in very arid conditions and can put a cover over the winch (another good reason to use an 8274 in addition to the Gigglepin upgrades available is it is generally easy to cover completely.)

This is why for line I strongly recommend using a kernmantle sheathed synthetic rope available from Masterpull or Marlowe (there may be others but these are the two I know about) where the core is covered with a braided sheath to take the brunt of the abuse and UV exposure. They're more expensive for sure but what I'd recommend is putting on a heavier line than you expect you'll need and significantly less than the winch drum will take length-wise, 75ft is usually more than enough. Then carry some unsheathed winch extension lines or cables which are much cheaper and use those when you need to go further from the vehicle.

This is wholeheartedly what I wish I'd done the first time.
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Well, I agree with some of that.

No winch on a truck this size should EVER have a 5/16" rope, period. 3/8" minimum. 5/16" is not adequate safety factor.

Cover it up when not in use. Clean it and respool when dirty. You should get MANY years out of the rope when treated well and it should never, ever break.

75 feet would be useless in my experience. I used the whole 125 feet of my line a few times last weekend. I carry another 125 extension when that is not enough. With the 8274, I still have a ton of space on the drum, so do not need to worry much about overloading one side on a long pull.

Good speed, big drum, runs all day and never complains. 8274....

The 9.5 series Warns are nice and fast but the drum is still small.
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Mine was on a D2 in an ARB, covering it was not an option. My only objections to an 8274 and similar is covering so much of the intercooler and rad area in front, and for a rear winch... not very viable if I want to be able to open my rear door
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