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Old January 21st, 2012, 08:27 AM
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Need Suspension Ideas

I am new to the Defender scene. My suspension is shot. I am looking to upgrade.
I was thinking about a 2-4 lift and setting up some new geometry. I have read things and seen alot about
"Safari Gard" yet I can not find what they are offering.
I have called ECR. However, the nice lady who answers the phone was less than helpful.

So Please, can someone point me in the right direction?

I have built a Jeep TJ W/ 5.7 HEMI 6spd manuel trans, 4.5 Rubicon express lift, King coil overs and custom dana 60's all around. In my garage.

Im not looking to go as Extreme with the Defender as i had with the Jeep. Though i do wish to do it right the first time.
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Old January 21st, 2012, 08:53 AM
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SafariGard is out of business.

Check out www.rovertym.com. Their progressive springs are excellent, they also have nice control arms and trailing arms.

Also check out www.rockware.net
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Old January 21st, 2012, 09:43 AM
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Do you mean by "shot" that it needs all the ball joints and bushings replaced as well as shocks and springs? I would install a full set of polyurethane bushings (they come in several flavors of stiff) all new ball joints and go with no more than a 2 inch lift spring. For shocks you'll want a gas charged shock such as Bilstein. Don't forget the steering damper.
This will tighten up the suspension quite a lot. While you are at it be sure that the rest of the suspension such as the swivel ball preload and the prop shaft u joints are in good shape.
In general you don't need a high lift on the Defender unless your off-roading truly demands it.
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I am new to the Defender scene. My suspension is shot. I am looking to upgrade.
I was thinking about a 2-4 lift and setting up some new geometry. I have read things and seen alot about
"Safari Gard" yet I can not find what they are offering.
I have called ECR. However, the nice lady who answers the phone was less than helpful.

So Please, can someone point me in the right direction?

I have built a Jeep TJ W/ 5.7 HEMI 6spd manuel trans, 4.5 Rubicon express lift, King coil overs and custom dana 60's all around. In my garage.

Im not looking to go as Extreme with the Defender as i had with the Jeep. Though i do wish to do it right the first time.
I'd give a call out to Lucky8 and Keith over at RovingTracks. I've been on trail with Lucky8 a couple of times and they use and test what they sell so they will be able to give you ideas from mild to modded. Keith has been a big help for me but he sells more axles related items. But I would give him a holler for front end pieces like tie-rods. I've heard great things about Rovertym springs but have no experience.

I"m sure there are people at ECR that would have plenty of knowledge of what works and doesn't but they seem to be more in the business of "restoration" vs. mail order.

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Do you mean by "shot" that it needs all the ball joints and bushings replaced as well as shocks and springs? I would install a full set of polyurethane bushings (they come in several flavors of stiff) all new ball joints and go with no more than a 2 inch lift spring. For shocks you'll want a gas charged shock such as Bilstein. Don't forget the steering damper.
This will tighten up the suspension quite a lot. While you are at it be sure that the rest of the suspension such as the swivel ball preload and the prop shaft u joints are in good shape.
In general you don't need a high lift on the Defender unless your off-roading truly demands it.
Good points. There is more to the suspension besides the shocks and springs and might be good to get a baseline. I've been running 2" OME springs with OME shocks for the past few years. I am not that aggro off-road but like to have a little fun. It seems like there is a threshold at the 2" lift - any more than that and you'll need to be messing around a bit more with other components to get the proper geometry. Seems like you can fit up to a 35" without a ton of trimming. Definitely do a search here and on Pirate4x4.com LR forum: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=26 Most of the guys on Pirate know a thing or 2 about suspension.
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Most people prefer Original LR Rubber Bushings instead of the Polly stuff, at least for off-roading.
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Most people prefer Original LR Rubber Bushings instead of the Polly stuff, at least for off-roading.
He has a Jeep. Those people go for the slime green and hot pink off road shiz. Red bushings will be killer on his rig.
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Old January 24th, 2012, 05:18 PM
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LOL... Owe, glad to see you rover boys aren't buying into any stereotypes. I like rubber. Poly is nice but when it goes bad, it has no limp home capability.

I am toying with coil-over hoop design.
I appreciate the help.
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Do you mean by "shot" that it needs all the ball joints and bushings replaced as well as shocks and springs? I would install a full set of polyurethane bushings (they come in several flavors of stiff) all new ball joints and go with no more than a 2 inch lift spring. For shocks you'll want a gas charged shock such as Bilstein. Don't forget the steering damper.
This will tighten up the suspension quite a lot. While you are at it be sure that the rest of the suspension such as the swivel ball preload and the prop shaft u joints are in good shape.
In general you don't need a high lift on the Defender unless your off-roading truly demands it.

I am will Bill on most everything I am running a mix of poly and OEM rubber on the suspension. I also went with a new drop arm and Equipe heavy duty front track rod and drag link (from Justin at Lucky 8). All rubber and ball joints have been replaced. Running a 2 inch OME lift and Bilsteins all around. This is my third or forth attempt to get the suspension right for my liking and I think I nailed it! O....since you are new to the forum or to 90s, get a front diff guard before you take the 90 offroad - this is a must!
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Ken, welcome to the forums and ignore the cheap shots - we are not all Jeep haters.

I recommend seeing/driving a defender with a tall lift before committing, as well as wheel it as-is to see what it's capable of already. I have seen a few heavily lifted defenders not only perform poorly on road, but also off-road as well. There is a noticeable difference on-road between a stock D90 with anti-sway bars and one with a 2" lift and no sway bars - about as mild a lift as you can go before changing the geometries.

What's the intended use?

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LOL... Owe, glad to see you rover boys aren't buying into any stereotypes. I like rubber. Poly is nice but when it goes bad, it has no limp home capability.
Exactly.
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