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Old April 7th, 2014, 09:27 PM
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Need help swapping lock barrel on RoW rear door

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I am trying to remove the lock barrel from the old door latch on my rear door, so I can install it in the new latch. I called Brian at Defenders NW, and he told me there is a small hole with a button to depress which would release the barrel. I have tried putting small objects in the hole & broddling around, but the barrel won't release. There are two indents that line up, and one hole- I am trying with the holes lined up. I have tried with the key in and out, and shot a bunch of oil down in there, no dice.

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Thanks in advance.

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Are you twisting the barrel once you depress the pin?
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Old April 7th, 2014, 09:46 PM
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I tried to remove my barrel but it would not budge. I drilled mine out.
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Old April 7th, 2014, 10:23 PM
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Are you twisting the barrel once you depress the pin?
Yes. Tried it with & without key, no dice.

------ Follow up post added April 7th, 2014 07:23 PM ------

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I tried to remove my barrel but it would not budge. I drilled mine out.
Where exactly did you drill?
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If I remember correctly you have to put the key in and twist it slightly to line up the ball detent. Once lined up push the pin in and pull on the key...i had to drill mine and ended up breaking part of the lock mechanism. I was able to split the latch open and repair it however.
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Old April 8th, 2014, 12:09 AM
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What is the part number for a new lock barrel?



I managed to get the old one out (tore the whole assembly apart) but the barrel won't fit the new latch, no matter how I try it.

Thanks in advance,

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Looks to me that your tool is to large for the hole. I haven't taken that lock barrel apart, but, usually there is one of two scenarios.
1. Insert a working key! Insert a prob that easily fits in the release hole and depress the retainer. While holding the retainer in, slowly pull the cylinder (barrel) out. A working key is needed to do this. Lots of dirt could have made it difficult to depress the retainer so make sure it is well flushed out with WD40 or similar.

2. Same as above but you might have to rotate the cylinder to get the retainer to line up with the probe hole. Once the retainer is lined up and depressed, pull the cylinder straight out without rotating it.

Before doing either of the above make sure there isn't a latch pinned to the back of the cylinder like on the back door of a 2A where the hook is the lock.

------ Follow up post added April 7th, 2014 09:17 PM ------

Guess my reply is too late. Better picture now showing no latch attached to the back.
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I drilled through the front of the lock where the key goes in. I started with a smaller drill like a 1/4" and then slightly larger drill. You only want to drill to slightly less than the key depth when inserted in the lock. The lock will fall apart and not damage the sleeve. Pull out the old parts and inset the new barrel.

In my case after all that work I realized the whole door latch had seen better days and I replaced it!
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Old April 8th, 2014, 08:36 AM
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Turns out the old barrel didn't have a detent release pin after all.

Ordering a new set of locks today...

Thanks,

Paul.
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remember that the old style rear door latch lock barrel is not the same as the old style front door latch lock barrels.
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From what I understand from the pictures....he has purchased the newer style latches and was trying to move the barrel(s) over....

The newer latch style is a lot better.
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From what I understand from the pictures....he has purchased the newer style latches and was trying to move the barrel(s) over....

The newer latch style is a lot better.
Correct. Ordered a set of 3 barrels with 2 keys today. It will be nice having one key for all 3 locks instead of 3 keys for 3 locks!

Thanks,

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