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Old September 13th, 2007, 12:59 PM
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Need an Odometer for a '97 D-90

The LED display on my odometer is intermittent. I would like one that works. I have 107K miles on mine. Is there any option cheaper than the $400 charged by Rover's North? That begs a larger question: is there a junkyard for Defenders? I would love the contact info for such a place if it exists.
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Old September 13th, 2007, 01:13 PM
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I would call George at Rovers Down South. He used to have one or 2 a while back.
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Old September 13th, 2007, 01:33 PM
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That begs a larger question: is there a junkyard for Defenders? I would love the contact info for such a place if it exists.
Big Sky Rover seems to have a large supply of Defenders in various states of disrepair sitting in a big field in Montana. Not a junkyard per se....

http://www.roverpartsused.com/


Anyone dealt with them?
I think a real score would be if someone is an auto insurance industry insider, and had access to a database of wrecked cars for sale, and found a total loss Defender for really, really cheap. Anyone have experience doing that? When I was living in Austin, TX a year ago there was a repair shop down the street with a 94 black Defender with a destroyed engine and smashed passenger side fender. Kinda rough looking....I think the customer decided not to fix it and sold it for $8,000. Then it appeared a few weeks later on the local Craig's list (with bodywork fixed but bad engine) for $13,000. I personally passed on the D90 because I had just purchased a perfectly good 95 ST.
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Old September 13th, 2007, 01:51 PM
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Do business with Big Sky Rovers at your own peril. I'm sure there are plenty of threads about how much that guy sux.

And there is already guy who has the inside line on the insurance auction thing, he's the guy that runs maxcar.net in GA. He buys the trucks and sells them for top dollar still wrecked. I'd sure like to see someone able penetrate the stranglehold he seems to have on the wrecked defender market.
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Old September 13th, 2007, 01:57 PM
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Is there a way to set/program a new Odometer to read the actual miles that is on the car?
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Old September 13th, 2007, 01:59 PM
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I'd just buy a VDO speedo. Basically the same thing.
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Old September 13th, 2007, 03:26 PM
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Is there a way to set/program a new Odometer to read the actual miles that is on the car?
Yes. You'll need a benchtop powersupply (for +12v) and square wave generator that will put out an amplitude of 12v. This can be a function generator or you can build your own with a 555 timer IC and a pot. The speedo is set to the number of pulses/mile (http://www.egauges.com/pdf/vdo/0-511-011-348.pdf) depending upon the transducer in the transmission. Basically, you'll want to set the generator frequency to a rate that maxes out the speedo (120mph?) and then let it sit until your desired mileage is achieved.
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Old September 13th, 2007, 04:02 PM
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Yes. You'll need a benchtop powersupply (for +12v) and square wave generator that will put out an amplitude of 12v. This can be a function generator or you can build your own with a 555 timer IC and a pot. The speedo is set to the number of pulses/mile (http://www.egauges.com/pdf/vdo/0-511-011-348.pdf) depending upon the transducer in the transmission. Basically, you'll want to set the generator frequency to a rate that maxes out the speedo (120mph?) and then let it sit until your desired mileage is achieved.
uhhhhh... I have no idea what you just said.
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Old September 13th, 2007, 04:07 PM
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Well, to summarize: power it up on the workbench and send it a stream of pulses for days (or weeks) until it reads what you want it to.
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Old September 13th, 2007, 04:40 PM
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Are you sure it won't automatically jump to it based on the BCU? I know the other rovers have multiple ECU's that store the mileage and if you replace a part it will default the new part to match the others, or if there are only 2 parts, it will default to whichever is higher. Otherwise I know that a dealer can do it with the testbook.
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Old September 13th, 2007, 05:03 PM
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uhhhhh... I have no idea what you just said.
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Yes. You'll need a benchtop powersupply (for +12v) and square wave generator that will put out an amplitude of 12v. This can be a function generator or you can build your own with a 555 timer IC and a pot. The speedo is set to the number of pulses/mile (http://www.egauges.com/pdf/vdo/0-511-011-348.pdf) depending upon the transducer in the transmission. Basically, you'll want to set the generator frequency to a rate that maxes out the speedo (120mph?) and then let it sit until your desired mileage is achieved.
LOL, you lost me after Yes.

Ok, so it's possible, just not as simple as plugin it in and setting it. I assume based upon the above description, a shop probably wouldn't have the means to readily do it.

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Are you sure it won't automatically jump to it based on the BCU? I know the other rovers have multiple ECU's that store the mileage and if you replace a part it will default the new part to match the others, or if there are only 2 parts, it will default to whichever is higher. Otherwise I know that a dealer can do it with the testbook.
Testbook? what is this testbook you speak of?
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Old September 13th, 2007, 05:31 PM
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Wow Chance...that would do it. I never thought about it that way, but it theoretically would work.
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Old September 13th, 2007, 06:19 PM
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Yah, I know of one guy that's actually done just that. I haven't actually done so, but I suspect I will have to someday as the odo in my 97 is erratic at times. BTW, I don't think the mileage is stored in the ECU....but I could certainly be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. Matter of fact, I'm wrong most times at home.
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Old September 13th, 2007, 07:27 PM
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Well, I asked a tech about it b/c we had a '97 in that the odo didn't work on and he said it is no problem to put a new one in and have it read the right amt. I am not sure if he meant that you have to do it with the testbook (LR special $40k computer for interfacing with the cars) or not. I know we had a debacle one time when a tech installed a new BCU in a disco II but someone had already installed it and returned it in a car with 90k miles. When he put it in it automatically defaulted the gauge cluster to also read 90k. Then when he put the orig. BCU back in to try to correct it, the gauge cluster automatically burned the old BCM to match b/c it is set to automatically default to the highest mileage! That was costly, the dealer can't even do anything about that except to install a brand new BCM and Cluster and put a sticker in the door saying that it was replaced at X number of miles. Then it just reads 0 and starts counting over! Costly learning experience...
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Old September 17th, 2007, 04:57 PM
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The LED display on my odometer is intermittent.
You mean "LCD". It's a common problem with those VDO speedos used in the '97's. 'haven't found a reliable fix, other than replacing it.
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Old September 19th, 2007, 03:51 PM
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I could have sworn that I read a fix for this very problem on this website somewhere.
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Old September 19th, 2007, 04:38 PM
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I could have sworn that I read a fix for this very problem on this website somewhere.
Good call Matt, http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ead.php?t=3035

follow-up thread http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...t=odometer+fix
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