NAS ST 90 install Puma 3rd row seats questions. I had my eye on the Puma 3rd row seats, because I would like the center aisle between the seats. I would like to so the install with out notching the wheel wells
- What kind of head room do you have with this arrangement i.e. seats sitting on top of the wheel wells?
- Can you mod the set up to use the NAS seat belt set up?
- What have people done to make backing plates to help reinforce the wheel wells?
- What puma 3rd row seat upholstery is the closest match to NAS seats?
I have done the searches and have tried to read up on this as much as I could, but would appreciate the thoughts/insites & pics from others that have done this.
The pics are my current set up w/ child seat on the NAS bench (also "sightings")
I like the Puma seats but have no interest in cutting the tub of the 90 to fit them.
I have yet to see the Puma 3rd in the denim trim, typically XS or modus.
I have both trims and I prefer the XS. You can always re-trim the fronts in either of these to match, and add seat heat of you haven't already. I was able to source the XS bench trim from Exmoor if you are worried about down the road.
The simple fix would be a set of waterproof seat covers all around and who cares what lurks underneath.
I can't speak to the installation as I haven't done it, just researching it. I would think you should be able to position the seats to use the existing seat belts. Both Exmoor and Puma seats have the buckle in the seat which should make that easier.
Puma tubs have a support that runs the length of the tub- you could find a local place to make an L shaped support to reinforce the tub, without the notch the puma tub has. I know there are a few threads here that show what people have done.
***Could someone with a puma tub please measure the notch depth (horizontal / up & down)***
Since I'm not going to notch the wheel wells, I have to figure out the thickness of the spacers for under the brackets. Spacers are shown in the last pic (pulled from one of the U.K. Boards)
Thanks to Sal, I ended up getting my hands on puma 3rd row seats. I put them in the back to get a feel for them (first two pics).
BTW - I am going to install backing plates under the wheel wells
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Thanks guys - so Ed using your measurement the difference between the Puma notched and non-notched defender wheel well height is:
1.4175" or 3.6mm
Does anyone know what engineering plastic is? So now I have to figure out how to make a spacer to that thickness. The post from a U.K. board used engineering plastic
Does anyone know what engineering plastic is? So now I have to figure out how to make a spacer to that thickness. The post from a U.K. board used engineering plastic
[URL="http://www.4x4community.co.za/forum/showthread.php/109862-Puma-jump-seats-fitted-to-a-90-TD5" said:
Thats 1/2" engineered HDPE plastic sheets- StarBoard is a brand name, many different manufacturers. Same product that some companies use for wheel spacers.
um...you'll need the width of the wheel well to correctly calculate the height of the spacer required. i'd be happy to measure it when i get back into town
Be aware that when you do not cut the rear innerwings and use the spacer under the legs the seat will sit high and most adults will have difficulty sitting in the back. Even in a Puma it is cramped.
Ed - Very interesting point. If you think about it, Puma's have a modified tub complete with a notched wheel well, and all that accomplishes is 1.5" of increased head room?
I would think they could have designed a thinner seat cushion on the 3rd row seats to give even more head room.
If you think about it, the inward facing jump seats sit on top of the regular non-notched wheel wells, yet there is no mentioning of height issues with those seats (that I am aware of anyway)
I dont know how you guys measure but the depth of the cut out on the PUMA hub is 4 cm or 1.5 inch.
If you mount the PUMA seat on the inner wingtop without cut-out you are missing the same amount under the seatbracket where it is supposed to stand on the floor.
I have done a whole bunch of inner tub conversion for the PUMA seats which i.m.o. work best.
If you like I can shoot some pics of PUMA inner tubs, I have several here.
yeah i am a complete rube. the simple difference of the heights should be the correct number. or 1.413". 40mm is 1.5748" so something is a little off on our compound measurements. rivermike, is that measurement from a real puma tub?
my 0.7ish number came from computing the height using the other dimensions from sal. if i reverse compute the width of the uncut wheel well is 13.375"?
yeah i am a complete rube. the simple difference of the heights should be the correct number. or 1.413". 40mm is 1.5748" so something is a little off on our compound measurements. rivermike, is that measurement from a real puma tub?
Why not buy the bracket setup from sal and make it a bolt in job? So you lose 1.5 inches in the rear how many adults will be riding in the back anyway?
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