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Old August 13th, 2015, 02:12 PM
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Three keys pictures. Top to bottom:
  1. Land Rover blank purchased here a few months back. Just had it cut and it is FUBAR'ed. At ~ $30 or whatever it cost, I don't want to repeat this mistake.
  2. Toyota blank by PO that I've been using exclusively for years. Works on doors (not that l lock them) and ignition just fine. No issues.
  3. Extra key from PO which from the weight of it, looks to be OEM but don't know. Works on ignition only and is my unused spare. Thinking the extra two cuts highlighted in key #2 would turn this key in to a door key as well. Can anyone confirm these two assumptions?
Issue -- Used key #2 to cut the new #1 blank but the new key does not work. Troubleshooting, the Locksmith said the longitudinal slot in key #1 is slightly wider than the slot in key #2. It appears the width of the slot in key #3 is in between #1 and #2. He thought the slot of the #1 blank or #2 key were just out of tolerance causing the cuts to be too deep in the blank. Both fit into the ignition (and door) just fine. Both also feel cheap when compared to the weight of the #3 key.

Anyone else run into this issue?
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Old August 13th, 2015, 02:24 PM
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So maybe no issues if OEM key #3 had been used to cut new key #1, instead of using Toyota key #2?
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Old August 13th, 2015, 02:28 PM
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I used Key #3 to cut key #1. No issues other than Home depot wouldn't cut the key. Said it was steel and they do not cut steel. Puzzled me so I went to ACE.
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Old August 13th, 2015, 02:36 PM
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Key 1: new plastic handled jobby, identical shape to 2 and 3
Key 2: original ignition key from NAS D90
Key 3: original uncut blank
Key 4: original NAS D90 Soft top door key from key 2 truck

Door keys and ignition keys (from NAS soft tops at least) are very similar in shape (and kind of mutually fit) but the lengths are different and the cut of my keys are not remotely similar, so I don't think that your original ignition key should operate your door locks at all. That Toyota key was probably dug up by a locksmith as a close match to your door lock key. It's just a coincidence that it works in your old ass worn out ignition and not a surprise that your ignition key won't unlock your doors. Sorry you cut the nice new key using your door lock pattern copied from a "good enough" key blank match...
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Old August 13th, 2015, 02:38 PM
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So maybe no issues if OEM key #3 had been used to cut new key #1, instead of using Toyota key #2?
Thinking the same. I didn't have with me, or even looked at, #3 for years. Thought it was another Toyota blank. Now thinking it was OEM all along. Just trying to confirm that is the case. Jim -,great intel! Thanks.
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Old August 13th, 2015, 02:55 PM
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One time I went to Home Depot they trashed a blank I gave them.
Go to a real locksmith. No problems since
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Old August 13th, 2015, 03:07 PM
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One time I went to Home Depot they trashed a blank I gave them. Go to a real locksmith. No problems since
I did, Baldino's. The salty guy that looked to have been honing his trade for 40 years opened up on what a POS LR lock cylinder's are in response to me saying it is an old LR. After cutting the key he asked if it was here, we walk out and he goes "ah, its one of them Defenders with the V-8" then proceeded to bash D1s for the next few minutes.
Received a PM saying solid chance my blank is the inferior clone and not the real McCoy.
Oh well, who has another blank for sale?
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Old August 13th, 2015, 03:33 PM
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I did, Baldino's. The salty guy that looked to have been honing his trade for 40 years opened up on what a POS LR lock cylinder's are in response to me saying it is an old LR. After cutting the key he asked if it was here, we walk out and he goes "ah, its one of them Defenders with the V-8" then proceeded to bash D1s for the next few minutes.
Received a PM saying solid chance my blank is the inferior clone and not the real McCoy.
Oh well, who has another blank for sale?
When I had my UK 90, I went to baldinos for a spare key and found an early 80's mazda key to be almost an exact match to use as a blank, your results may vary.
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Have you tried to get another Toyota blank, and use key #2 to cut it? Seems like the best solution.

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Keith sums it up well here: http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...tml#post331124
Already have a pair of keys that work, so the plastic LR key #1 is for vanity purposes only. Waiting for the cool keychain NAS plaque in the works to complete the package.
LordHelmet already hooked me up with a replacement. Thanks, Paul
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Thinking the same. I didn't have with me, or even looked at, #3 for years. Thought it was another Toyota blank. Now thinking it was OEM all along. Just trying to confirm that is the case. Jim -,great intel! Thanks.
You know how sometimes when you make a copy of a copy it doesn't come out so well ?
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