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Old June 18th, 2010, 08:07 PM
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NAS 110 temp gauge update to remove signal conditioner

So,

I read this:

http://www.eastcoastrover.com/signalconditioner.html

and I pull the signal conditioner.

Then I see this:

http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...64&postcount=1

And I buy a 94 (I think, date stamp is 3793 ie July 3, 1993) gauge from Davis.

And I buy a 94/95 sender from RN for $30.

I swapped the gauge, but the old gauge looks exactly like the one I took out (can't quite see the sticker to read the part number, but it looks close and no date stamp). Are the internals different or did I spend money buying something I already had?

TYIA.

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Old June 18th, 2010, 11:38 PM
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I did the VDO conversion instead. Cheap, accurate, easy.
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I did the VDO conversion instead. Cheap, accurate, easy.
But not genuine rover!
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Old June 19th, 2010, 12:52 AM
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The internals of the guage are different.
You will need the white temp sender too.
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I order the right temp sensor. Thanks for the confirmation on the gauge!
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But not genuine rover!
True Ron but it really works and is accurate. It gives actual temp's as well.
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I'm about to do the VDO guage thing too, just ordered my stuff today!
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I did the VDO conversion instead. Cheap, accurate, easy.
I have never made a VDO work correctly in a Rover V8. It always reads wrong when compared to other manual gauges and manual tests. Have worked with VDO tech and they can't sort the issue and in the end VDO tech suggested we not use their set up unless we added a resistor to their sender, and they said the resistor would alter the gauge and not make it accurate.
VDO stuff goes in and gives numbers, but it isn't accurate in our experience. Your mileage may vary.

Add to that that the white gauges senders form Rover are no longer produced in the correct ohm range...
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I have never made a VDO work correctly in a Rover V8. It always reads wrong when compared to other manual gauges and manual tests. Have worked with VDO tech and they can't sort the issue and in the end VDO tech suggested we not use their set up unless we added a resistor to their sender, and they said the resistor would alter the gauge and not make it accurate.
VDO stuff goes in and gives numbers, but it isn't accurate in our experience. Your mileage may vary.

Add to that that the white gauges senders form Rover are no longer produced in the correct ohm range...
Ive never heard this, based on the infrared gauge and the VDO gauge its damn near spot on I admit there is ample room for error. Stock Land Rover gauges are worthless, I got an air bubble in my range rovers cooling system when I flushed it this weekend, VDO was headed to 220 stock gauge hadnt budged .
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Add to that that the white gauges senders form Rover are no longer produced in the correct ohm range...
So what did I spend $30 on from RN?
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So what did I spend $30 on from RN?

some OE Britpart crap
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Interesting Mike. I took out the conditioner, used their sender and have found it to be quite accurate. Hands down better information than the stock guage. Given all the V8 cooling issues, I thought it was prudent.
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some OE Britpart crap

Humm, Les said it was genuine (standing order is I don't buy non-genuine parts)
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Ahh. then you should be fine. I have had them try to pull a fast one on me in the past, if I wont junk I order from AB or George.
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Ron what are the part numbers of the stuff you got and how hard is it to do?
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I'm about to do the VDO guage thing too, just ordered my stuff today!
Did you do this? which gauge did you get?
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Ron what are the part numbers of the stuff you got and how hard is it to do?
I bought a gauge out of a 94 NAS D90 and the white sendor. It showed up, it looked NOS but it was genuine. IIRC it was $40 for the sendor and whoever sold me the gauge gave me a good deal.

Easy to do, but you have to pull the cluster to get to the gauge.

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(standing order is I don't buy non-genuine parts)
You can do that?
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Why did ECR stop selling the kit?
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You can do that?
Yes. I told Les that if it is something that is not genuine he should let me know. It is not really a formal arrangement, but I call enough that he knows. Lots of times he is like, "we have proline for $X and genuine for $Y." Only when the difference is HUGE or genuine is NLA have I bought proline. I should say there is nothing fundementally wrong with Proline it is just my time is valuable and I have had better luck with genuine.

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PS I should add, I only talk to Les as he has proven to be very good. I used to only talk to Shane, but he moved on to another job.

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Why did ECR stop selling the kit?
I think Mike said because the sendor was NLA/hard to get.
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