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Old February 26th, 2015, 10:35 PM
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Muffler -- what are my options

I have a hole in my muffler.
I'll be the first to admit that I don't know much about mufflers, so I'm wondering whether I can get set up with whatever the local muffler shop has in stock that will fit. Or do I need to get some special Defender muffler.

The one they sell at Rovers North is $459 MUFFLER CENTER DEFENDER 90 V-8, RNF422, WCE104000 - Rovers North - Classic Land Rover Parts

I called the local muffler shop and he said it would run $80 to $100.



If there are pros and cons for one over the other -- what are they?

Bottom line is this -- can you guys point me to any specific mufflers that would work for me -- especially one that won't break the bank?
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Old February 26th, 2015, 10:37 PM
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What do you want it to sound like ? I'm partial to flowmaster.
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Old February 26th, 2015, 10:40 PM
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I don't think the sound is all that important to me -- in other words I might pay a little extra, but wouldn't want pay that much extra for the sound factor. I'm simply fixing the muffler here.
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Old February 26th, 2015, 10:50 PM
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I doubt $80-$100 would be stainless so you'll be repeating the experience down the road. How soon is depending on your environment.

Edit: I just saw that you're in Sac, so barring trips to Tahoe or with decent upkeep, you'll be fine for years with regular steel. You may squeeze a bit more power out of a free flowing exhaust system, but now we're talking a whole new can of worms.
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Old February 26th, 2015, 10:57 PM
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I went with a Flowmaster and am very happy with it. Support your local muffler shop!
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Go stainless its worth the extra money.
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There's nothing super special about these mufflers, so if you're local guys can do it, do it. My local guys couldn't and wanted to cut and weld and fabricate some crap that they felt wouldn't last, so I ended up with the OEM to replace. If I had a competent local place where I lived back then, i would've gone to my local shop and asked for a stainless steel version. Make sure they see it though, cos on the phone is one thing....
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You should get under there and inspect your entire cat back setup. If you're muffler has a hole, then you could have rust at the coupler and other places. In which case you could just get the whole setup and do it yourself (bolt on).

You don't want your muffler guys to start cutting, discover this, and then feel like you've got no choice.
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You should get under there and inspect your entire cat back setup. If you're muffler has a hole, then you could have rust at the coupler and other places. In which case you could just get the whole setup and do it yourself (bolt on). You don't want your muffler guys to start cutting, discover this, and then feel like you've got no choice.
X2 national franchise shops I find don't want to work outside the box very often.

First thing they typically say when they see your situation is they don't have the couplings and the job will require more welding/labor. Then you are at their mercy of someone's welding skills. Done right is no problem. Done wrong you'll be back next year with problems they may not warrant.

I agree with supporting local. But franchise shops rarely fit in that scenario.

My advice is have the shop look at it and you get under there too. Have them show you the good, bad and ugly. If it makes sense and doesn't sound like bullshit then compare their estimate to that of an RN with shipping and any additional labor you can't do yourself.

All this for a effing muffler.
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Thanks for the feedback. Probably makes sense for me to do as 1of40 says and go under the rack with them to take a look.


Is there anything extra special about the EOM one at RN that merits paying a premium?
--it looks like that's what drdread did.


My takeaway is that pretty much any muffler would do (assuming there's not damage all the way along and assuming I don't need stainless).
p.s. the muffler shop I'm talking about is pure local, not a chain.
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If the hole isn't too bad, then watch the boards on here for a used stainless cat back setup. I bought mine on here used, a magnaflow stainless with 5,000 miles through it for $300.

It just bolted right in place of the oem. Remove rear lh side wheel for ease of instalation.
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what motor do you have? If you have a diesel you might consider running a straight pipe. With a diesel most of the exhaust sound is muffled by the turbo.
I have had Magnaflows and Flowmasters on different rigs. I picked up a used magnaflow off craigslist for $30. Paid $50 for my local muffler shop to install. Sounds great with the 200tdi
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p.s. the muffler shop I'm talking about is pure local, not a chain.
That's good. If I am not mistaken the chain shops don't fab up custom systems. I took my truck to a place that does all its own bending and designs. Look up who does the local hotrods and custom exhaust for the diesel pickups crowd. They will know what to do.
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That's good. If I am not mistaken the chain shops don't fab up custom systems. I took my truck to a place that does all its own bending and designs. Look up who does the local hotrods and custom exhaust for the diesel pickups crowd. They will know what to do.
True dat! That was the problem when I went to do mine as I didn't have any hotrod or custom places near me, and just Meineke, Maaco, etc
You really can't beat the clamp on OEM though for ease, especially if you can get it used somewhere
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