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Old June 12th, 2004, 06:47 PM
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Michelin XZL Tires

Can anyone tell me the width and diameter of the 8.25 R 16 and 7.50 R 16 Michelin XZL tires? this has probably has been discussed here before but i can't find it. thanks
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Old June 12th, 2004, 08:38 PM
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The 8.25R16's are ~34.0"x9.0". I'm not sure about the 7.50's

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Old June 12th, 2004, 10:07 PM
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from what I understand, the 8.25's are 32.5x8.25 and the 7.50's are 31x7.50.. any idea where to find a set of 8.25's? I would like a set for my series truck.

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Old June 12th, 2004, 10:08 PM
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31" for the 750's

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Old June 12th, 2004, 10:28 PM
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then the 7.50 is a little smaller than the stock tire. the 265/75/16 is 31.6 tall and 10.4 inches wide. is the 8.25 OK for a stock truck, or would i need a lift kit?
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Old June 12th, 2004, 11:14 PM
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Well, if the 8.25 is 32.5 as Randy said then you should be fine. However, if it's 34 as DJ said then no. You should at least have OME springs to fit the 34's.

I know 9.00 R 16 is 36.5" which I'm guessing the 8.25 is 34"
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Old June 13th, 2004, 02:07 AM
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any idea where to find a set of 8.25's? I would like a set for my series truck.

Thatched roof garage has 5 7.5'smounted on wolf rims. the 825 would be a real hassle to fit - they are 34 or so inches and you would have to do some serious mods to fit. Para only give 2" of lift. The 750's will fit with little to no mods aside from parabolics. Or you can go to Alcan springs and get real spring made with better handling and 2" lift like the para's. They have really cool eyes on the springs called orbit eyes that prevents spring twist. Check them out.

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Old June 13th, 2004, 05:06 AM
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The 8.25R16's are definitely 34's as I have got a pair currently mounted. As far as mods go Yousef hit the nail on the head; mods are required. To fit the 8.25's you'll need to upgrade your springs to a 3" lift and install a CV-style drive shaft up front (at the minimum). I'm running OME 764's up front and OME 781's in the rear of my SW with the 8.25's coupled with a front GBR CV-driveshaft.

Just from driving around it's also obvious that the shocks need to be displaced as well. I'd recommend either EE's 2" rear shock mount or Scorpion Racing's rear & front shock mount (both allow a 2" drop for your shocks). You can purchase the Scorpion kit from 4x4 Adventure Gear (http://www.4x4ag.com/).

More importantly, where are you going to find 8.25's? I happen to find mine local to Portland, Oregon, however, as far as I know his last set of 8.25's were sold over a year ago. Basically, you're going to have to comb the US for them shop by shop. I would have never found mine unless a fellow Rover-Nut had told me that her next door neighbor had these tires at his shop. If worse comes to worse you can always solicit other countries for them. The UK and maybe Australia might sell them to the public. Hope this helps.

Feel free to ask any quesitons. And if anyone needs pictures I'd be more than happy to help out.

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If I may, I think XZL's are an option from Rover if you buy one abroad. I recall because thier was an option for this when you configured the D-90 on the LR webpage......
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Old June 13th, 2004, 04:45 PM
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Here are the sizes in mms:

http://www1.ocn.ne.jp/~tire-y/XZL.html

8.25R16 converts to 33.86" x 9.05", 7.50R16 converts to 31.57" x 8.27"

Yes, the 7.50s are a factory "off-road" option in Europe.

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Old June 13th, 2004, 05:17 PM
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Now the million dollar question, who got some for sale.
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Old June 13th, 2004, 05:40 PM
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Now the million dollar question, who got some for sale.
Check the Candian Tire stores. Some had 8.25's for sale - 6 of them. Just google XZL's for sale and you should be able to find some online. Also some military vehicle sites have postings on where to find them - but they are more toward the surplus 900 to 1200's.

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These guys had some late last year. 200 for 8.25's

Bill at Bill's Tires Pacheco, CA, 925.689.2678
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Thanks Eric, I may start scouting around for the 9.00's.
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Old June 13th, 2004, 07:14 PM
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Old June 13th, 2004, 08:52 PM
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Check out www.govliquidation.com they had some Michellin tires by the pallet. Dont know what size. Worth looking into though. Just search under tires on there page.
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Old June 13th, 2004, 09:15 PM
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does anyone know what the XZLs are like on the road?
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They probably produce less noise then the BFG M/T's. I've owned both and think they're somewhat comparable as far as noise level is concerned.

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Old June 14th, 2004, 12:06 PM
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how do they handle on the road?
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Well, they certainly grab. I never experienced this with my BFG's, but if there's a rut in the pavement those XZL's will pull you right into it. However, this is more likely due to the combination of the aggressive traction & narrow width of the tire. The same is probably true for any tire with these dimensions. Anyway, thatís really the only shortcoming of the XZL's, well, that and they weigh 70-lbs per tire. I wouldnít recommend using the stock Defender tire carrier for an 8.25 XZL.

Off road I'm quite pleased with them. I've run them through loose gravel, shallow sand, snow, ice, over deadfall, & rocks. I used them on just about everything except a nice patch of thick mud. Go figure. Anyway, they certainly get the job done. Although ice and snow are not their strong points in my opinion. It seems as if this type of tire is more suited towards a high desert terrain. Perfect for pushing through scrub brush, sand, & gravel basins.

All around I think itís a good tire. A bit too expensive, but the rubber doesnít appear to be too soft and should last. All things being equal my BFGís wore quicker in the first 10K miles of their life whereas the XZLís donít appear to have worn that much at all.

As for locating them you might want to give these guys a try up in Canada (http://www.tirecraft.com/commercial/MichXZL.asp).

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how do they handle on the road?

I've got a set on my x-mod 110 and like them. Off road they grip well and seem to shed mud pretty well. On road I've been comfortable at 70 mph all day (drove to MAR and back in Virginia last year). Mine are pretty worn now and I'd like to find another set.
Where are you in Atlanta? I'm in Canton. Are you in SOLAROS?
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