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Old September 8th, 2013, 02:37 PM
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Mastercraft rs seats in a defender

Has anyone installed these seats in a defender ever? They look comfortable but not sure if they would work with the battery box under the seat
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Old September 8th, 2013, 03:06 PM
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I have not, but they seem to have the same issue as other seats: non standard seatbox mounting and no way to remove the seat bottoms.

Seems like a lot to give up for questionable increase in comfort.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 09:46 AM
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Good point. That's the issue I see. Not being able to get under the seat.

Not sure how those upgraded sears that rovers north sells are??
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Old September 9th, 2013, 10:46 AM
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I thought these might be a fix to running aftermarket seats and still get to the seatboxes: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/misce...any-seats.html

But I just figured it was a lot easier to carry a 13mm socket, 3/8 drive and I can have my seat out in under 5 minutes. I don't need to get in there that often and to be honest it is nice to have the full seat out of the way when accessing the battery box.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 11:29 AM
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Don did u install the seats? What do you have?
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A pair of brand spanking new XS Modular seats from Exmoor is $1000, while a pair of Mastercraft RS seats is $1050 plus the $100-$300 it will take you to actually mount them to the seatbox. At which point, you still have to deal with the immovable seat-bottom problem.

Like Don said, you can carry around a wrench, but is the Mastercraft RS seat really worth that much trouble?

Sometimes it's good to just leave well enough alone.

If you really want to blow money, there's always #VPLDS0035PUY You get seat heaters and an LR embossed logo as well.

That said, I don't know why aftermarket manufacturers don't make seats with removable bottoms stock. It seems like a simple and innocent enough design to me.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 12:34 PM
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i put int he corbeau seats and love them. i simply modified the seat bracket that came with them so they sit 1 1/2" lower, then welded wing nuts to the bolts to be able to remove them without wrenches. the corbeaus were about $800 iirc
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Old September 9th, 2013, 01:38 PM
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Even carrying around a wrench is still annoying.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 02:25 PM
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Even carrying around a wrench is still annoying.
Umm we are driving Rovers aren't we? I think some dudes travel with half the Snap-On catalog. My white 90 had a Tuffy locker filled with tools and stuff like an extra coil, fuses, jumper wires and I still felt a little naked.

And if you have ST the 13mm doubles as a wrench for the half windows.

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Don did u install the seats? What do you have?
I put in Corbeau sports about 3 months after I bought my white truck in 2008. The stock seats just weren't that comfortable especially coming from the Audis I had previously. When I sold it i got new bottoms and sliders for it and kept the Corbeaus. The new bottoms were nice and all but I was getting discomfort after doing local drives. I have done full day trips - wake up early, driven to Rausch, rode trail all day and then come back and my back was in decent shape. I think with stock seats (even new ones) I would have been hurting.
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Old September 9th, 2013, 02:41 PM
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A pair of brand spanking new XS Modular seats from Exmoor is $1000, while a pair of Mastercraft RS seats is $1050 plus the $100-$300 it will take you to actually mount them to the seatbox. At which point, you still have to deal with the immovable seat-bottom problem.

Like Don said, you can carry around a wrench, but is the Mastercraft RS seat really worth that much trouble?

Sometimes it's good to just leave well enough alone.

If you really want to blow money, there's always #VPLDS0035PUY You get seat heaters and an LR embossed logo as well.

That said, I don't know why aftermarket manufacturers don't make seats with removable bottoms stock. It seems like a simple and innocent enough design to me.
I bet the stock seats are great for a lot of people but if you have a bad back or big frame they might not. For me the time spent that I had to get in the seat boxes was tiny compared to the amount of time of comfort I got from the Corbeau. And I have read that the Mastercrafts are even more comfy and better made than the Corbeaus. It is like spending for the right mattress where you spend 1/3 of your life using it.
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I will have a nifty seat hinge for aftermarket seats available in about a month. I'm using smittybilt seats all around (flame suit engage).









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Keep me posted on the hinge sets. I want some



Don let's see your bracket setup...

------ Follow up post added September 9th, 2013 09:20 PM ------

My lower back kills from these stock seats
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Keep me posted on the hinge sets. I want some



Don let's see your bracket setup...

------ Follow up post added September 9th, 2013 09:20 PM ------

My lower back kills from these stock seats
Yes, put me in line too. I'm very interested.
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I also am interested in a set.
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What headlights are you using Oscar? They look really clean!

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I will have a nifty seat hinge for aftermarket seats available in about a month. I'm using smittybilt seats all around (flame suit engage).









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Old September 10th, 2013, 04:52 PM
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Keep me posted on the hinge sets. I want some



Don let's see your bracket setup...

------ Follow up post added September 9th, 2013 09:20 PM ------

My lower back kills from these stock seats
Randy - here is one I just took. I also have some on my build thread. I used 1x1 tubing I got from Lowes and my buddy TIG'd it together. I welded in bungs so it was a lot easier to mount the Corbeau sliders to it.

Here is my build thread: http://www.defendersource.com/forum/...ad.php?t=47478

Let me know if you have any questions on the brackets
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Old September 10th, 2013, 07:10 PM
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The headlights are Truck Lite LEDs. I like them a lot. I also have some LED "fog" lights in the bumper but have yet to wire them. They are the generic grommet mount LED reverse lights you can find on ebay.

I'm redrawing the hinges now. I had previously done a set for my last 110 that had two mounting holes per side of the seat frame. and required notching the ridge on the seat box. Ive decided that was not a good idea.

I need to draw a set to match my current seat, which has 4 mounting holes per side, not require notching the back of the seat box, and has a simpler way of keeping the pin.




This version has the pin "captured" when released. I think I'm going to just allow the pins to be pulled out fully and kept on a lanyard for simplicity.

If you guys are interested let me know if you have the two or four bolt per side setup. ( I might need someone to measure the distance between bolts on the two hole set up).

If you already have your aftermarket seat picked out the bolt hole spacing on center would be good info.

The Smittybilts are 11" apart front to back and 14" across. The stock bracket is spaced about 17 3/8" apart. So the "bridge" between the left and right side should accommodate any reasonable seat spacing.
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I'm going to see if I can get some quotes from CNC forum and hopefully have a set made up soon.





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