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Old July 27th, 2014, 04:56 PM
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Has anyone successfully modified a Mantec carrier to fit two gas cans on it? Love to see some pic of what you've done. Will it even hold the weight?
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Old July 27th, 2014, 05:11 PM
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Has anyone successfully modified a Mantec carrier to fit two gas cans on it? Love to see some pic of what you've done. Will it even hold the weight?
I reckon a rotopax via a Jeff Payne type adaptor would work.
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Old July 27th, 2014, 05:13 PM
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Good idea but I already use his bike rack plate

------ Follow up post added July 27th, 2014 02:14 PM ------

Good idea but I already use his adapter for bike a bike rack...plus with a 35 on there it's a lot of leverage...
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Old July 27th, 2014, 05:28 PM
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put the under arch tank in and just take one can?
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put the under arch tank in and just take one can?
Under arch tank?
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Old July 27th, 2014, 10:51 PM
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Under arch tank?
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Old July 27th, 2014, 11:22 PM
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I'm afraid I would hit it during articulation...
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I'm afraid I would hit it during articulation...
put in bump stops an you'll be fine. Is your Mantec a sleeve or a hinge? The extra weight on the sleeve will foobar it! If it has the hinge you should be fine to add the extra weight.
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Old July 28th, 2014, 12:18 AM
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It's a sleevy hinge type thing.
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It's a sleevy hinge type thing. Like this:
talking about the hinge on the rear door, they have a couple styles. Take a pic of the one on the rear door
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would love to but cant get camera back there with spare... at least in the dark... i will wait till sunlight and try again... i have seen it... it uses a plastic shock type thing to move with the door opening...
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would love to but cant get camera back there with spare... at least in the dark... i will wait till sunlight and try again... i have seen it... it uses a plastic shock type thing to move with the door opening...
gotcha so it's a plastic PCV sleeve that slides, my only concern with that set up is the additional weight on that plastic and it not working properly? Maybe swap it with a nice hinge or a latch system and I wouldn't worry about adding the weight of your jerry cans
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I'm afraid I would hit it during articulation...
I don't think that's likely ... Or even possible
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This is with 255/85/16 (33x10.5x16)...



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I'm running 35x12.5x17 now but more neg offset. I haven't flexed it yet due to fender rub. I will be checking it out shortly though.
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the tank sits further back than the top of the spring mount ... if your tires hit the spring mount then i dont think they could touch the tank.
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gotcha so it's a plastic PCV sleeve that slides, my only concern with that set up is the additional weight on that plastic and it not working properly? Maybe swap it with a nice hinge or a latch system and I wouldn't worry about adding the weight of your jerry cans
I have a couple of those rear tyre carriers and if I recall the plastic sleeve doesn't take the wight..it's really just a dampened stabilizer kinda thing..
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I completely agree that the sleeve doesn't take initial weight, my concern is that he is running a 35" tire plus a couple jerry cans. The extra weight on the stock hinges is what worries me. Not saying it would fail but that it is more likely to fail bc of the plastic design, simply opening and closing of the door and bouncing around. We have one at our shop that is mangled beyond repair. But who knows how that happened, I am just expressing a concern of the extra weight and a potential failure. I would be a lot less concerned about a stock set up bc of the steel/brass hinge set up.
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Looking at mine this morning I noticed that the bolt that goes through the bracket attached to the door (part of the swing arm on the carrier) isn't even tightened down. It is just sitting in the bracket. All of the weight is on the hinges that aren't on the door. Is this right? It's got a double nut setup but the nuts aren't snug to the bracket???
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Looking at mine this morning I noticed that the bolt that goes through the bracket attached to the door (part of the swing arm on the carrier) isn't even tightened down. It is just sitting in the bracket. All of the weight is on the hinges that aren't on the door. Is this right? It's got a double nut setup but the nuts aren't snug to the bracket???
I'm not concerned about it holding the weight, I am concerned with the stress caused by inertia while closing the door. That plastic isn't designed to absorb that much weight.
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The plastic sleeve won't hold it without modification. I have a 33x12.5x15 rim on the back that's probably 50-60 pounds and that alone has destroyed that sleeve. To be clear, it's not the sleeve itself that broke, it's the rubber washer and the two bolts that degrade. To keep that weight from swinging, you have to tighten the nuts down beyond what that rubber bushing can take. then the rubber bushing degrades faster, which means you have tighten the nuts more, which causes the bushing. yada yada.

Close the rear door, grab the carrier frame and shake it front to back. See if the sleeve moves in the mount where it contacts the carrier.
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